Any South Africans who have an SVS?

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  1. Vaughan Odendaal

    Vaughan Odendaal Second Unit

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    Hello everyone,

    Being a South African myself, I've been wondering for quite some time now, are there, in fact, any South Africans who own SVS subwoofers?

    I ask because I would love to audition one before I commit. Actually, I was on the verge of buying an M&K V-76 (retails for R8000 in S.A, which is about $1210), but I've given it some thought, and I'm convinced that SVS is the only way to go.

    How would the more costly M&K subwoofers compare to the PB-10 ISD (to be specific, the MX-150 or 350?)

    Truth be told, I'm probably going to buy the SVS anyway, given all the amazing reviews and positive comments, but it wouldn't hurt listening to one either.

    After much researching on the net, I've come to the conclusion that SVS is the only alterative to my specific bass needs, namely, deep bass extension, and high output levels with low distortion.

    The only thing I wondering is how much it's going to cost me to ship. I'm going to use Bax Global, and when I commit, I definitely want to ship via air freight. I don't want to wait 6-8 weeks for delivery though.

    Anyone in the Cape Town area who has an SVS? I must go now, but I'll post some more questions later. Thanks again.

    --Sincerely,
     
  2. Morgan_

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    I'll be the first one to say it: you don't need an audition! I too thought people maybe over exaggerating the performance of the svs's when I first came to the forum. But once you own one, you'll understand that it's all the truth, and everyone is right![​IMG] You'll have pride too that you own one because you know that no one has a sub that puts out the quality that yours does! I have a PB10, and it's the entry model! Yet, I love that sub, and I'm proud of it, the way it looks, it's specs and quality components, and I show it off too. Nobody I know has one, they just have the store bought crap, and that's great because I'm discriminating when it comes to audio, and I wanted the best. My fellow forum members, when they post pics of their svs's, MAN! It's just great to see the different models and that they all share the same thing: high quality sound. Look at the response graphs and you can see it, play it and you can feel it. I played "lemony snickets" on Sunday and in one scene, it literally shook the floor and made you feel like the house was falling in on you. Your purchase of a SVS will make you happy, proud, and will be THE smartest audio purchase you will ever make.[​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    P.S. If your budget is $1200 USD, then I'd go with the PB12 Plus:
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    I love this rosewood finish and it would run you $999 and give you some extra money for the shipping. My next SVS will be one of these PB12's with a real nice wood finish. But that's in the future, I'm perfectly happy with my black PB10. [​IMG]
     
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    I bought a PB12Plus/2 last year without ever hearing an SVS, and am very satisfied. I took a chance that the large number of testamonials on these forums were accurate, and they were.

    Also, any sub that is not equalized for flat response will not give you everything it's capable of, no matter the manufacturer. My SVS improved dramatically after getting all sub 100hz frequencies reasonably flat. I use a Rane PE-17, but many also like the Behringer Feedback Destroyer Pro.

    Enjoy your SVS.
     
  5. Vaughan Odendaal

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    Thank you all very much for the feedback. I apologize for not responding.

    Although I originally was willing to spend R8000 on a sub, I've come to the conclusion that it's going to cost far too much if I factor in the shipping, import duties, tax costs etc.

    Shipping costs a heck of a lot, especially where I stay.[​IMG] But, in all honesty, the PB-10 ISD is the one I'm going for. I'll commit at the end of the month, though, since I'm waiting until I get paid, heh.[​IMG] Just a couple of questions.

    1) How will the PB-10 ISD compare to M&K's MX-150 in extension?

    2) When I buy my SVS, I'm definitely going to buy the sound pressure meter they sell, but I don't know about Avia. You see, I'm pal, and I think I would need pal test patterns, surely?

    Would it matter that Avia doesn't have pal test patterns to calibrate? If so, how so?

    3)If it's that important, are their similiar calibration disks that are as good as Avia?

    Thanks. I guess that I'm going to be the first South African to buy an SVS then?

    Cool.

    BTW, my real name is Vaughan. Don't even ask why I have this username. Long, long story.

    --Sincerely,
     
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    Vaughn,
    You can email Tom V. or Ron S. at SVS and they will be glad to answer your questions. You will find them very knowledgeable on other manufacturer's subs and they never try to push their own product on you. I have found them very honest and down to earth. I have the 20-39PC+ cylinder sub (my second SVS sub BTW) and nothing can touch it for the $$ IMO. I started out with the entry level 25-31 way back in '01 and I will never own any other brand of sub besides SVS. They are that good IMO.

    Take Care,
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    Hi Vince,

    I had the M&K THX 350 Sub at my place and then bought the SVS PB12-Plus. The Plus gave me the same amount of "shake" for half the price, which the M&K would have cost me.
    I am very happy with the Plus, and have bought a second one now.
     
  8. Vaughan Odendaal

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    Thanks guys.

    If someone could please answer this for me, how would the PB-10 ISD compare to the M&K 150 (or 350) models in deep bass extension?

    Also, would it be advised for me to purchase the Avia disk even though it isn't pal?(I'm pal, btw).

    Thank you.

    --Sincerely,
     
  9. Des Flurane

    Des Flurane Auditioning

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    hi Vince,
    Don't bother with the Avia, just download some test tones, burn to disc and your away.
    The NTSC version would be fine for the Audio part but not satisfactory for the video part.
    Des.
     
  10. Vaughan Odendaal

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    What about Video Essentials? Does it compare to Avia? Does it include pal test patterns? If so, would SVS be able to ship it with my PB-10 ISD (when I order?)

    Thanks.

    --Sincerely,
     
  11. MikeLi

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    I also have the BP12/2+ (upgraded from the PB2+ of two years ago). I too did it without hearing it. People will disagree with me but its not as critical listening to different subs like it is with speakers. Especially SVS because they will go with anything. You in a unique situation. I would call SVS and talk to Ron there and give him info on your room, equipment and such and let him advise you on which sub to buy. If your like me he recommended one down from what I got. I just had and have always been this way to over build or over do it just a bit so I got the PB2+ now a PB12/2+. I never have it over 1/2 way up on the gain in a good sized room with 16 Ft. vaulted ceilings on one side. It took the place of two NHT 12" subs that I had prior. After getting the SVS and listening to both it took me all of 2 minutes to see that the SVS was staying and kicking some butt and the NHT's were being thrown out to my Bro in Law. I love being able to feel not just hear the bass and this sub will do it for you. Good luck and hope shipping won't kill you. Even if you had to wait a month or so for it to get there believe me it is well worth the wait. Remember you only have proabably one shot at this unless you sell it local and upgrade again so I would go for the best you can afford. You won't be sorry.
    MikeL
     
  12. Vaughan Odendaal

    Vaughan Odendaal Second Unit

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    Thank you for the feedback. A question: how would the PB-10 ISD (not the PB-12 or any other SVS subwoofer)compare to the M&K 150 (or 350) in output or extension?

    --Sincerely,
     
  13. MikeLi

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    Have not heard the 350 only the 150 at my local Audio/video store. I would assume that the 350 is just a double of the 150, bigger amp, probably a 12" instead of a 10" woofer. All I can say is I would take any SVS over one of these anyday. Way more punch for HT use and they do a great job on music as well. Good luck.. sorry it costs so much for stuff like this to be delivered.
    Where I am, in the USA, Oregon State, there are a lot of folks I know that live north of me about 300 miles in Canada. Most buy Paridigm just to save on the import duties, taxes and other fees and hassles that come with buying out of country. However for an SVS ( I guess I can say this since I have had about 6 different big subs over the last 10 years) that I would gladly pay all the fees now that I have an SVS which has served me faithfully for over two years now....
     
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    Thanks MikeLi.

    You know, I'm just looking for the best performing subwoofer for the price, and, well, if this subwoofer can beat commercial offerings at several times the price, then it would be an added bonus.

    This is why I want to go the SVS route. Not with M&K. Or Paradigm. You see, in South Africa, I can't really get good value subwoofers at a reasonable price (although some might debate this point, however, I believe this to be the case).

    I would have to spend a lot of money to get good performance (and don't even get me started on those M&K subwoofers, they are far too expensive in my country, and, in my opinion, aren't really good value for money.

    I'm an audio specialist. I have heard M&K subwoofers, and while I consider them to be good, quite good, in fact, they are still far too expensive.

    I know that SVS is the option to go for. I just need to know what kind of performance I would be getting in relation to these M&K 's (specifically, either the 150 Ultra or 350, both of which house two 12" drivers in a push/pull configuration).

    I mean, if a PB-10 ISD can outperform an M&K 150 in deep bass extension (and clean output), then I will be floored. Honestly. I can get that subwoofer for about R16000 (in US dollars, around $2424. Yes, you heard that right, $2424.

    Factoring in the tax duties and import costs, shipping an SVS PB-10 via air freight will cost me around R5000. This is why I have to go with SVS.

    So, if anyone can give me an idea of how the PB-10 ISD would compare to the M&K offerings (the ones I listed), I would really appreciate it.

    Thank you.

    --Sincerely,
     
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    Anyone?

    --Sincerely,
     
  16. MikeLi

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    Maybe start a new thread with SVS PB-10 vs. M&K 150 or what ever the number is. That might get you in some PB-10 owners in here. I think right now you mostly have PB12 owners in here.

    Also cannot stress this enough. Call Tom at SVS. He knows about every sub out there. They buy them for compairisons and such. He will not sell you something even if another brand will work better for you. I have heard of several people that had a certain room conf. or equipment issue where he actually told them of a different sub to get. You won't find that kind of honesty at M&K or most anyplace. A call won't cost you much and you will really feel good after the talk with him. I went from more expensive dual subs before my SVS. Tom helped me try to get more out of them before talkeing to me about SVS. I tried but just could not get enough for HT out of them. Anyway he told me what to buy at the time. I should probably have done it to save some money but I had to get the next bigger one up just because thats the way I am. Anyway I love my PB2+ now the PB12/2+ and it never has been up over half way in my big room so I probably could have got buy with the smaller one.... Oh well. Good luck.
    Mike
     
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    Vaughan Odendaal Second Unit

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    Thank you for your advice. I'll contact Tom and ask him for advice, as well as start a new thread. Again, thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it.

    --Sincerely,
     

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