Any reason NOT to upgrade Denon 3801 to 3802

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  1. Gil D

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    I have the opportunity to trade in my Denon AVR3801 for the 3802 for a couple hundred more.

    It seems like getting DPL2 for that price is like adding a separate DPL2 decoder (if one was actually available) and without the inconvenience of having to switch between processors.

    Are there any other benefits beside DPL2 that you get with the 3802 over the 3801? I have read some comments from those who have done the 3801->3802 when it first came out that it had a better sound. As I use it for a preamp, is there any improvements there.

    Worse yet would be if Denon had to reduce the cost and therefore quality/performance of the 3802 to pay for the DPL2 licensing in order to keep the new model at the same price point. The only thing I can recall that was cheapened was the volume knob which is now plastic - no biggie unless the actual volume control is inferior.

    Gil
     
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    Sankar your right, no differnce worthy enough to mention other then DPL II, which is nice for cable, vcr etc..In my opinion unless you use dplII alot and are picky with those sources, its not worth spending 200.00 on. I have dpl II but could easily live without it..Im only picky with other sources though..Just an opinion but I would would come up with another plan of action, There are LOTS of options[​IMG]
     
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    It's not really an upgrade. IMO, your money would be better spent on separate amps, or the next model up.
     
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    I already have a separate amp that I use to drive te three front speakers and outdoor speakers. The Denon drives all of the rear speakers. Next real upgrade is definitely a more powerful separate amp.

    Denon 4802 is too expensive for me and I can't deal with it's remote. If I were to get another preamp/receiver it would probably be the Sony DA5es. I don't think the Outlaw is for me.
     
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    Yes,

    By all means take a look at the two 950 beta test threads.

    Tom
     
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    I found this on Audioreview:
     
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    Mark,

    I didn't see any mention of qulaity issues or hiss in the reviews at audioreview. And only one case of a unit popping.

    Are these problems common to all 3802's or just isolated?

    Gil
     
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    I have the 3801. There are only 4 differences that I have found.

    1. 3802 has DPL2

    2. 3802 has a variable cross-over (80, 100, 120), whereas the 3801 is fixed at 80.

    3. 3802 has slightly more power per channel.

    4. 3801 has slightly better build quality; it has a brushed aluminum face whereas the newer model has a plastic face. Both weigh about the same.

    I checked all this very carefully because I got my 3801 recently for an insanely cheap price compared to the street price of the 3802 and I wanted to know the difference. I would not bother with the upgrade unless they are no more than about $75 apart.
     
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    Plastic face? ugh.

    This is thru a local dealer so I can return it if it doesn't work out.

    I need two units, so I would keep one of the Denon's and get the Outlaw.
     

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