Any news on G.I.Joe season 2, part 2?

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  1. Mike Miskulin

    Mike Miskulin Second Unit

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    Alright, so Rhino gave nuthin' but excuses as to why the remaining 15 episodes of the 80's G.I.Joe cartoon were not include in the season 2 (part 1) set, claiming something to the effect of waiting for more suitable extras, and planning on releasing something extra special for part 2. Expected release date: Q4 2004.

    Well, there's three weeks left in Q4 2004 and nothing has been released, let alone announced. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe all home video rights have now been given to Paramount.

    Anyone have any word on what's happening with this set? Rhino full of lies as usual, or is the last DVD set coming out?

    mike.
     
  2. Burn Rourk

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    First, I heard that Rhino was losing the rights for G.I. Joe to Universal, who has been producing the new CG direct-to-DVD movies. Supposedly they hurried up and released what they could of S2 before their deadline. Therefore, we would never see those episodes unless Universal could be persuaded to release them.

    Then, there was a rumor that Universal was going to re-release them from scratch, and since fans already had the first set, low sales would mean that the last set would never get released. Or we'd be forced to rebuy S2/P1 when it was released as a complete season set.

    Then, I heard that Universal was in the process of buying Rhino. Or just the Rhino cartoon library. Then a rumor said that Rhino wasn't affected in any way, and that we should get news on S2/P2 any time now.

    I would soooo appreciate some true-blue official news on this matter.[​IMG]
     
  3. David Lambert

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    Universal?
     
  4. JasonLa

    JasonLa Stunt Coordinator

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    Is there any official news yet on this topic? I didn't even hear this info before now and have already purchased the 1st part of season 2.
     
  5. Jay Pennington

    Jay Pennington Screenwriter

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    Paramount released the latest CG movie, Valor vs. Venom, not Universal. [​IMG]

    My copy of SpyTroops, which was packaged with toys, has no major studio logo whatsoever. Just that of Hasbro and Reel FX, the CG studio.
     
  6. Mike Miskulin

    Mike Miskulin Second Unit

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    I would guess that there is in fact no news on the remaining episodes being released.

    Personally, I would assume that Paramount would release them in the future since Rhino has apparently lost the rights. Of course, all this depends on how well the previous sets actually sold.

    I am glad that the sets are out of Rhino's hands. Monkeys over there. A bunch of monkeys. The ineptitude of that entire company sickens me; all the way from botching previous releases to their outright lies on the GI Joe releases to the idiotic "+/- 150 minutes" running times they used to (or do currently) put on the back of their releases. How hard is it to put down something remotely close to the actual running time on the box?

    I could rant on, but in all likelihood no one cares.

    I just don't like half-assed work.

    mike.
     
  7. JasonLa

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    This is actually the 1st I have heard any complaints on the GI Joe DVDs. I'm curious to know what complaints you have on them. If you prefer you may send me a private messages with the details.
     
  8. Mike Miskulin

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    I was actually referring to the Transformers sets, but there are plenty of things that annoy me on past GI Joe releases.

    One big annoyance is the altered soundtrack on the first two mini-series (added sound effects, etc.). At least they finally include the "original audio" on successive discs.

    On S1, P1, the season 2 opening is used on every episode aside from the opening 5 parter, not the correct S1 opening.

    Also, the opening note of the theme seems to be cut off on nearly every episode (this may be a player issue, but I don't know for sure).

    Another big gripe is the "bumpers" between episodes. They're cool once or twice to hear again, but to hear them 5 times an episode just drives me nuts. At least most episodes have properly formatted chapter markers so as to jump past the bumpers an into the next scene.

    Don't get me wrong, I am grateful to have these discs in the first place, but they seem simply thrown together and not really put together by 'fans' of the show. Or it could be put together by fans who love the show but have no idea how to properly release a dvd. Either way, the presentation feels very cheap to me.

    An aside: With a quick look at the Transformers: Heroes disc (one of the first releases) it say +/- 150 minutes on the box. Let's see, 3 episodes @ 22-23 minutes a piece = ~66 minutes. I guess that falls into the "+/-" range somewhere. Nit-picky? Yes, but very annoying.

    mike.
     
  9. JasonLa

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    I forgot about this one. For me this is very minor. At least they didn't use the syndicated versions [​IMG] that for me is the unpardonable sin for tvshows on DVD.

    I actually like the bumpers. That is one of the things I remember most from the shows and feel a small disapointment inside when I watch some of the ones the bumpers were left out or altered. I think Knight Rider had some missing or altered.

    I agree that a statement of +/- 150 minutes when in actuality the running time is ~66 minutes is a bit rediculous. However I find that many DVDs of all kinds include the special features in the running time. I personally think that special features should have its own running time and put the running time of just the movie/episodes.
     
  10. Jay Pennington

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    I like the inclusion of the bumpers. If they were aired that way, leave 'em in, I say.

    On the first "miniseries" set, the bumpers caused a wave of nostalgia for me. Much more than the shows themselves! I was back to 1984.
     
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    I also think that it was good they left the bumpers in. But I agree with the rest of your post.
     
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    Speaking of alterations.... Unless there are either 2 different animation versions and/or audio versions, season 1 episode 1 at ~14:29 the card being read by Mutt the text doesn't match his words as he reads it. For reference you can see a screen shot from
    http://qktheatre.com/summaries/the_p...ss/part1-2.htm
    it has a screenshot of the scene with the card reading the words spoken by Mutt as he reads the card in the episode.

    Very minor but its a bit funny when you hear one thing and read different words [​IMG]

    I am going to continue checking each episode as I go just for curiousity sake more than anything else. The only reason I did this one was when I looked at the running time and seen it was only a little over 22 minutes I was thinking it was cut even though these are all "uncut". I thought they would be ~23 minutes. But then i realized part of the running time would have included the PSA which is seperate in the special features of the set. Found on the last DVD #10 PSA. Perhaps I should not all changes if I find any more in future eps and start a nitpick thread lol
     
  13. Mike Miskulin

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    That is hilarious! I don't remember the original airing, but I'd assume that's the way it was recorded.

    I think Mutt knew something all along. Never trust a guy with a mustache, I say... [​IMG]

    Now, if I was releasing this series to the masses (which, of course, I'm not), under the current dvd standards, I'd release as follows:
    • One, massive eighteen disc boxed set, containing the entire 95 episode series, plus G.I. Joe: The Movie
    • One disc devoted to each of the four mini-series as well as the movie
    • The remainder of season 2 divided equally on 8 discs, the remainder of season 3 on 5 discs
    • Each episode digitally remastered and cleaned up, with original broadcast audio intact
    • Options on each disc to watch episodes: (1) with opening/closing credits, bumpers, and any "previously on," or "next time" spots; (2) with opening/closing credits and bumpers; (3) with opening/closing credits only; (4) episodes only, without any of the previously mentioned material
    • I'd love to include the original toy commercials and comic book commercials if possible
    • PSA's included and optionally viewable at the end of each episode
    • Purely a wish on my part, but I'd love to hear an isolated score on one episode (since each episode essentially has the same music)
    • Any other extra features anyone may want to include
    • All this presented in nine ultra thin keepcases (thinPaks) encased in a collector box - total shelf space ~ 2.75"
    • Sell this set at a buck an episode ($100 msrp) and make a few bucks

    Make this set and I will buy it.

    mike.
     
  14. JasonLa

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    Anyone notice the inconsistancies in season 2 part 1 with the audio? I noticed the bumpers in the some of the episodes don't have the gun sound effects for the text displaying and some do and the explosions don't sound quite like the ones in the rest of the episodes including season 1 in DD 2.0. I checked the origional audio on the DVD so it seems that the sound for the bumpers was added in for the DD 2.0 and 5.1 audio. I guess the implication they threw this one together is pretty much on the mark.

    I watched all the sets in DD 2.0, has anyone compared this with the origional audio option on the DVD sets? I noticed that explosions seemed to be enhanced in DD 2.0

    I compared nearly all episodes from season 1 part 1 to the visual track on qktheatre and only found the one iconsistent part I mentioned previously. I got tired of checking them though as it was getting tedious. And I figured to based on the lengths and that there was no uncertainty of the episodes being complete it was getting pointless.

    There appears to be some missing PSAs according to the info on qktheatre. After checking each episodes from all season 1 and those incuded in season 2 part 1 the following aren't included in any (season 2 part 1 were all repeats but 1 of the PSA)

    (1)21,39 MISSING STOP DROP AND ROLL (SPIRIT)
    (1)26,48 MISSING BIKE REFLECTORS (DUSTY)
    (1)28,34,36 origional broadcast unknow, USA network syndication showed:
    (1)28,(2)1,4 MISSING SPRAY PAINT FUMES HAZARDOUS (DIAL-TONE)
    (1)34,(2)5 MISSING SUNSCREEN (LEATHERNECK)
    (1)36,(2)7 MISSING OUTRACE TRAINS WITH GATE DOWN (GENERAL HAWK)
    (1)49 MISSING STEALING (SHIPWRECK)
    (1)50 MISSING FAINTING (AIRTIGHT)
    (2)11RELY ON CONSCIENCE (FLINT)

    Please correct me if I'm in error on any of these. As I noted in season 1 part 1 PSAs in extras there were 2 that were included but no listed for any of the episodes on the DVDs based on qktheatre info.

    6 GRAFITI (FLINT)
    7 RUNNING AWAY (SHIPWRECK)

    Thought i'd point these things out.
     
  15. Jeff Jacobson

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    I think the only audio that is supposed to be heard during the bumpers is the music and the narrator's voice. (I know that's the case with Transformers.) Rhino added in extra sound effects to the episodes for some reason.
     

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