Any firm specs on Muppet Christmas Carol?

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  1. James Reader

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    I don't mean the aspect ratio which is more than likely to be 4x3 [​IMG]
    Does anyone have any detail on DVD supplements? I assume that there will be some after the 'Muppet Treasure Island' release. The Disney site doesn't list any, neither does Amazon.
     
  2. Jeff Kleist

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    There's a commentary, and a 20min featurette
     
  3. LukeB

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    According to Image Entertainment:
    Commentary with director Brian Henson; "Frogs, Pigs and Humbug: Unwrapping a New Holiday Classic"; Christmas Around the World; Gag Reel
     
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    Excerpt from the commentary: "We worked real hard to frame this shot, but as you can see here it's all f@*%ed up!"

    (Mommy, why is that guy talking over the movie?)
     
  5. Malcolm R

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    If it's not OAR, do other disc features really matter? My copy will remain on the store shelf.
     
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    Hi,
    the sad thing is that the R2 version will definitely be OAR. Extras are the same as on the US version. The same goes for Muppet Treasure Island, by the way. (Source: DVDInside, in German only)
    Chris
     
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    And Henson Production signed off on these travesties?

    Dan
     
  9. Christian Preischl

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    Jeff,

     
  10. Christian Preischl

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    Hi,
    update on the R2 version:
    Jeff, I think your source may be wrong as a widescreen version of the film has been classified by the BBFC:
    THE MUPPET CHRISTMAS CAROL
    Classified 19 September, 2002 . Run Time 82m 28s
    Widescreen, Shorter version
    What confused me at first was the term "shorter version", but upon further investigation it seems that this only means PAL Speedup. Skip the next paragraphs if you don't care about the details: [​IMG]
    The cinema version was classified at 85:48 min., and the original video version at 85:28. (Cinema versions running times are somewhat approximate, so that may account for the time difference). It appears that the original video version was transferred without the PAL speedup (which usually means that the video quality isn't as good). Since I have that video I popped it into the VCR, grabbed my guitar, and what do you know, the video runs at the correct speed.
    So I guess, the shorter version really just means "shorter running time due to speedup"), and the R2 version will be widescreen after all. At least I hope so.
    Chris
     
  11. James Reader

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    Hi,
     
  14. Mike_Richardson

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    This continues to be a huge disappointment [​IMG]
    If the movie runs only 85 minutes, it's also evidence that it's the cut theatrical release and not the "Director's Cut" that was on video and laserdisc -- the main difference being the exclusion (in the theatrical cut) of the terrific song "When Love Is Gone."
    That song is integral to the film but Disney cut it in theaters because they thought it was too "mushy" and that little kids were growing impatient. When Brian Henson did the video release, he put it back in (if you watch the theatrical version, it's so obvious the song is missing as Scrooge goes from being distraught to crying in a matter of a couple of frames!! The Disney Channel has shown the theatrical version but every tape and LD release has the DC).
    If that song ISN'T on the DVD, it's even more reason to stick with the laserdisc....ugh Disney!! WHY!?!?!?!
     
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    I'm so angry about this I could spit.

    I want this film, but won't buy the chop version.
     
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    I believe that the R2 of Christmas Carol is not only going to be Pan & Scan, but edited as well.
     
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    This sucks. I really like Muppet Christmas Carol... dare I say it? EVEN IN FULL-FRAME! BUT I WANT THAT SONG!!!
     
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    This really does suck. sigh - not sure i will be able to resist through the holidays....
     

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