I really like what these come loaded with. Especially if you configure your own system online. Frys had a $2500 model P4 2ghz 512rdram I sorta fooled around with yesterday. The thing could capture video by s-vid, composite and SONY's version of firewire (I know about the compatibility issues using non SONY DV sources). The TIVO-like video recorder seemed interesting. I don't even have cable though so I dont know how worthwhile that would be for me, but it seems that unless you get that feature you dont get the analog inputs. Oh and it even had a digital out for Dolby Digital! i've seen a lot of customer service complaints about SONY as well as different upgrade issues. I guess I'm not real worried about upgrading. XP should be around awhile right? I'm still running the original 98. I also know about SONY's refusal to upgrade the editing software, but if I run Premiere 6.0 I guess I'm not too concerned about that either. So any comments about the VAIO line? These things really seem to come a long way. I've looked at a few review boards so far . . . but HTF members are just the best when it comes to anything like this. Thanks!