OK, after months and months of waiting for the Outlaw 950, Bruce's post in the 2/15/02 thread about Outlaw saying they will release an "update" at the end of the month tells me they are really farther away than I thought. I went to www.sonicfrontiers.com and downloaded the literature on the Anthem AVM-20. This really seems like an unbelievable pre/pro. Fully software and Hardware upgradable, just about every input known to man, balanced inputs and outputs, switches 1080p video, bass management on DVD-A and SACD and the reviews are awesome. Now I know it doesn't have DPL II (which I could care less about anyway), but there is a coming upgrade for that. I know it's 3X the Outlaw, but I'm sure my dealer can discount slightly. Plus, I have an Anthem amp already and Paradigm Ref speakers so I'd be keeping it in the family. Anyone have this piece in their system so they can give me some real world feedback and convince me to give it a shot. I think I might go to my dealer this weekend and set up an in-home demonstration.