another man found dead in wheel well of plane

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  1. Jim_C

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    http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast...ath/index.html

    Having this happen once seems rare, having it happen twice in the same week at the same airport seems very unlikely to me.

    Am I being paranoid or does this worry anyone else?



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  2. Malcolm R

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    I think the fact that they were discovered at the same airport is a concidence. They're different airlines with different points of origin.

    But the whole "man in wheel well" scenario is a bit suspect. Though none of them seem to have been carrying explosives or anything else threatening, at least not that has been reported.
     
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    >>Though none of them seem to have been carrying explosives or anything else threatening, at least not that has been reported.>I think the fact that they were discovered at the same airport is a concidence. They're different airlines with different points of origin.
     
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    If they don't suffocate first, they'd probably freeze to death.
     
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    >>If they don't suffocate first, they'd probably freeze to death.
     
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    Yes, they certainly freeze to death. On transcontinental flights, the temperature "outside" is lower than -50C.

    These stowaways are would-be illegal immigrants, not terrorists. However if a (suicidal or not) terrorist would hide there - or simply leave a gift inside...

    Cees
     
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    It's only a matter of time till terrorist get in there with Gortex and Scuba tanks, be afraid!
     
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    I've heard of this before. A few years ago someone was found in a wheel well and fell out as the plane was coming in to land. I don't know if he was dead before he hit the ground or not.

    Is it possible to travel this way? I mean, people keep trying it.. so it must work, right?
     
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    As a way of killing yourself - yeah.
     
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    They don't even have the very beginning of a clue.

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    It's like that guy who shipped himself in a box... authorities say he was LUCKY to survive. Like Cees says, they probably saw something in a movie and just haven't any idea what the reality is.
     
  12. Joseph DeMartino

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    There actually was some guy who survived one of these attempts: relatively short hop, lower altitude, warm clothing, maybe a scuba tank. But people who don't know better do try these things. (Like that guy a couple of months ago who was on his first plane trip and tried to open a window - he simply had no conception of air pressure or altitude or any of that stuff.)

    The latest guy to land at JFK was actually aiming for Heathrow. That was the destination of the flight he stowed away on. Because he froze solid jammed up in the wheel, well his body did not drop to the ground when the plane landed in England, where he presumably planned to get off. It didn't even fall out in New York. Instead an airline employee noticed a foul odor and found the body which had been in the wheel well for over a week.

    Odds are this has nothing whatever to do with terrorism. These are just desparate people from Third World countries trying to escape to a better life. But if they were terrorists, I don't see the problem. Since they are effectively executing themselves en route and aren't actually pulling of any terrorist acts, I'd be happy to have the entire membership of al-Qaeda try this method of infilitrating the U.S. and the U.K. Osama? Final boarding call... [​IMG]

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    What the hell kind of comment is that?
     
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    The Discovery Channel show More Than Human did a thing about a guy who survived travelling in the wheel well of a plane. According to discovery.com that episode comes on again 2/26 at 10pm and 2/27 at 1am
     
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    That depends on what they carry with them and can do before they die.

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    the problem is the wheel wells aren't presurized or heated. the OAT is about -30 to -40C in cruise all year round, not to mention he probably died of hypoxia before the plane climbed through 25,000 feet.
    Then there's the matter of keeping out of the gear system when it comes up and not getting crushed. The ONE guy that made it, I have no idea how he made it alive.
     
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    these people are morons, but certainly not terrorists (can't believe it was even suggested...)
     
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    My point being that neither of these guys was carrying anything and they didn't manage to do anything before they died so that in the unlikely event that they were terrorists...

    On second thought, never mind. When you have to explain a joke either you haven't told it right or the audience isn't going to find it funny with an explanation, either. [​IMG]

    Regards,

    Joe
     

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