Another Bittorrent site sued

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  1. MandyHan

    MandyHan Stunt Coordinator

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    Looks like Hollywood is cracking down more on piracy. Last week they were able to shut down the piratesbay (though I think its back up) and now I just saw they're suing another bittorrent site in Canada called IsoHunt. here's the article link...
    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32255
     
  2. Christ Reynolds

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    will be interesting to see what happens, since these sites serve no content at all, only links to (potentially) illegal content.

    no different than google. using the right keywords, you can find cracks and serial numbers to popular software. why is google not being sued?

    these hollywood lawsuits only target groups who cannot fight back.

    CJ
     
  3. MandyHan

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    yes, but if you google Isohunt, it is self proclaimed as a "IRC and Bit Torrent search engine" in the first result you find. You might be able to find something on google, but it is not google trying to offer it. You can also enter "child pornography" or something else terrible on google and it shows up.

    I think the MPAA is going after the sites that try to gain traffic through torrrents.
     
  4. todd s

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    What exactly is this whole bit torrent stuff? Without getting into unallowed talk.
     
  5. Christ Reynolds

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    in general, bittorrent is a method of distributing data. it is used to distribute illegal content sometimes, and this is why you hear about it lately. it's unlike previous data distribution methods, because your download completes faster when MORE people are connected.

    CJ
     
  6. Paul D G

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    BitTorrent is the latest in peer-to-peer file sharing (like Napster used to be).

    How it works is (more or less): If there is a file I want to share I create a torrent pointer file and upload it to a BT server. anyone who is interested in this data downloads the pointer file and runs it in the BT client. This then connects them to the Torrent. Everyone connects to my computer and starts to download the file. Once the download is completed it is good etiquette to remain connected to the torrent so other people can start downloading from you. more and more people connect (and the more people who remain connected with 100% file completion) the faster it goes. It's like a big river of data. As long as someone stays connected with 100% of the file it never ends.

    -paul
     
  7. MandyHan

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    I read that the RIAA is reporting that illegal downloading of music is "contained" and that legal digitial music downloading is up 77%. It sounds like Bittorrents are used mostly for films now. I think after the success the RIAA has had, you will see more cracking down, busts of illegal sharing, and eventually, we'll see legal movie downloading programs that are as popular as iTunes (I wouldn't be surprised if the leader is iTunes).

    Here's the article I read...
    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/product...a_x.htm?csp=34
     
  8. Paul D G

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    I rarely see movies being torrented (tho I can't say I look for them). The sites I look at relate to British tv (my wife loves Question of Sport), and live musical performances (where anything commercially or officially available is banned). I see a lot of TV as well (stuff like LOST and other hot shows, which is pretty handy if you forget to record or the DVR malfucntions)

    -paul
     
  9. Christ Reynolds

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    yep, you aren't looking, movies are torrented probably more than any other illegal material.

    CJ
     
  10. MandyHan

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    well if the site close downs continue, maybe it won't be the case too much longer. we'll see
     
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    alan halvorson Cinematographer

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    Why would I do this? Because I'm a nice guy? I certainly don't want anyone connecting to my computer and using my connection for anything.
     
  12. Paul D G

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    It's a bit safer than that. Because they're linked to the torrent all they get is that particular file. Something else is doing all the work. It's not like someone can surf around your PC. But it's a legitimate concerrn and is a reason to not download from places like Pirate Bay, but more legit places.

    But if you really want to be paranoid, just being connected to the internet is opening up your PC. You're regularly exchanging data with every site you go to.

    -paul
     
  13. JeremyErwin

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    Let's just put aside the question of movies and music for a moment, and consider linux.

    Linux is free software. You can download it, recompile, it, give it to your friends, modify it, and redistribute it, provided that you do not attempt to take those rights away from others. It's explicitly licensed that way.

    Periodically, new distributions are released, collecting all the bugfixes, new features, etc together. Yes, you can download updates piecemeal, but sometimes those pieces prove to be less than compatible with each other.

    So, when a new distribution is released, there's a sudden need for bandwidth. The normal ftp servers (kernel.org) only have so much bandwidth. In the past, it was mirrored explicitly, but it's more efficient to automatically distribute the load with bittorrent,

    Don't want to give up your precious bandwidth? Fine. Use the overloaded, slow ftp servers, if you can even connect.

    A short time ago, I needed to get a copy of Xcode, the (free as in beer) MacOSX development tools. It's something like 900 Megabytes-- nightmarish over a 56k modem. Apple's FTP service would not let me maintain a connection for many days, but had it been available (legally) through bittorrent, I might have been able to snag it over a couple of days.

    Hackers rarely suffer from failures of the imagination. Lawyers often do.
     
  14. MandyHan

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    Aside from legal issues, I think the real risk is that people using bittorrents could think they're receiving the latest Hollywood blockbuster, and the file actually could have a virus on it.
     
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    Pirates aren't nice people. [​IMG] But they are when it comes to illegal activity. The more 'sharers' there are out there, the easier it is to get stuff (and get it fast).
     
  16. MandyHan

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    yaaar, but if they're not careful...they could all be walking the plant together. I don't know what is worse, a pirate losing his booty, or a pirate losing its bootlegs and freedom.
     

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