What's new

International Angel Heart 4K UHD StudioCanal UK 14 October 2019 (1 Viewer)

titch

Screenwriter
Joined
Nov 7, 2012
Messages
1,583
Real Name
Kevin Oppegaard
Oh I'm a big fan of this! Must have seen this a dozen times when it came out over 30 years ago - I had the infamous Lisa Bonet Interview poster tacked onto my bedroom wall. My previous blu-ray is the UK 2009 disc, which looks completely rubbish projected. Looks like there'll be another Halloween 4K triple bill again with The Shining, Don't Look Now and Angel Heart!
81NI6Q6qOzL._SL1500_.jpg
 

titch

Screenwriter
Joined
Nov 7, 2012
Messages
1,583
Real Name
Kevin Oppegaard
I'm looking forward to this as well. I hope SC does a great compression job unlike most of their output.
Yes - they are a bit hit-and miss (Terminator 2 was probably the nadir but the DNR was James Cameron's fault). Don't Look Now looks nice projected from the 4K disc. The previous Angel Heart blu-ray is so horrible, I think anything would be an improvement though.
 

titch

Screenwriter
Joined
Nov 7, 2012
Messages
1,583
Real Name
Kevin Oppegaard
I actually preferred the remastered blu-ray, compared to the 4K disc. Projected, the 4K disc is way too dark. Oddly, the colour grading is different between the blu-ray and 4K disc, much like it is on Unforgiven. The flesh tones seem unnaturally pink on the blu-ray.

In my opinion, there's no real resolution benefit of the 4K disc, even with a third of the bitrate, the uprezzed blu-ray looks really filimic, with natural grain. It was great watching this again - looking forward to more catalogue 4K releases! There's also a really good booklet written by Alan Parker included, detailing the production. The extras on the discs are just the old DVD extras ported over, as well as the commentary.

IMG_9944.jpg
 

lark144

Screenwriter
Joined
Feb 22, 2012
Messages
1,743
Real Name
mark gross
I actually preferred the remastered blu-ray, compared to the 4K disc. Projected, the 4K disc is way too dark. Oddly, the colour grading is different between the blu-ray and 4K disc, much like it is on Unforgiven. The flesh tones seem unnaturally pink on the blu-ray.

In my opinion, there's no real resolution benefit of the 4K disc, even with a third of the bitrate, the uprezzed blu-ray looks really filimic, with natural grain. It was great watching this again - looking forward to more catalogue 4K releases! There's also a really good booklet written by Alan Parker included, detailing the production. The extras on the discs are just the old DVD extras ported over, as well as the commentary.

View attachment 64343
Thanks for letting us know about this, and reminding me it's available. I managed a theater in NYC where this premiered ( got to escort Ms. Bonet to her seat and she was very cordial) and I recall the wet gate print we showed (supervised by Mr. Parker) was so dark during certain scenes you couldn't make out people's faces, and had to go by the voices who was who. Also, I remember the color was pushed to the yellow side of the spectrum (which I'm assuming was on purpose, especially noticeable during the intimate scene between Ms. Bonet and Mr. Roarke.)

Anyway, I love this film, both in spite of and because of its eccentricities. If anyone who is a fan of this film hasn't yet read the original source novel--"Falling Angel" by William Hjortsberg--I highly recommend it.
 

David Wilkins

Supporting Actor
Joined
Jul 5, 2001
Messages
964
The amazon.co.uk web site lists this as region B2. I assume that's correct? I don't have a region-free player, so I can only hope we'll see a North American edition.
 

titch

Screenwriter
Joined
Nov 7, 2012
Messages
1,583
Real Name
Kevin Oppegaard
The amazon.co.uk web site lists this as region B2. I assume that's correct? I don't have a region-free player, so I can only hope we'll see a North American edition.
Yes - the blu-ray is region 'B'-locked. It's very rare that Studiocanal licenses their masters to North America but they did so for Apocalypse Now.
 

titch

Screenwriter
Joined
Nov 7, 2012
Messages
1,583
Real Name
Kevin Oppegaard
Thanks for letting us know about this, and reminding me it's available. I managed a theater in NYC where this premiered ( got to escort Ms. Bonet to her seat and she was very cordial) and I recall the wet gate print we showed (supervised by Mr. Parker) was so dark during certain scenes you couldn't make out people's faces, and had to go by the voices who was who. Also, I remember the color was pushed to the yellow side of the spectrum (which I'm assuming was on purpose, especially noticeable during the intimate scene between Ms. Bonet and Mr. Roarke.)

Anyway, I love this film, both in spite of and because of its eccentricities. If anyone who is a fan of this film hasn't yet read the original source novel--"Falling Angel" by William Hjortsberg--I highly recommend it.
Projected, the 4K disc is so dark, you can only see the silhouette of Mickey Rourke against the window in his office in the opening scenes. In the booklet, Alan Parker writes how they drained everything of all primary colours for a monochromatic look. "Rather sarcastically, (producer) Alan Marshall reminded us of the perversity of huge numbers of painters required to paint the colour out of the film. For in film art direction it does, of course, take six layers of paint to make something look unpainted."

On Caps-a-holic the differences in colour grading that I'm seeing on the blu ray and 4K discs are quite apparent. The 4K disc must be more to the intended look - just a shame I can't see very much!

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=13404&d2=13405&s1=134293&s2=134302&i=8&l=0&a=1

(and they've included a rather nice still of Lisa Bonet in a damp singlet)
 

lark144

Screenwriter
Joined
Feb 22, 2012
Messages
1,743
Real Name
mark gross
Projected, the 4K disc is so dark, you can only see the silhouette of Mickey Rourke against the window in his office in the opening scenes.
.

Yeah. I remember that scene being really dark, but possibly not as dark as you describe
 

Peter Neski

Screenwriter
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
1,095
I get that its darker hen BR ,but overall both look great to me ,I didn't do side by side yet one scene in the Dr's bedroom before he leaves
looks great both ways ,I couldn't decide 4k does look sharper to me
 

David Wilkins

Supporting Actor
Joined
Jul 5, 2001
Messages
964
As a longtime lover this movie, I went ahead and ordered the UHD from Amazon Uk. I hesitated after reading some of the above posts, but overall I'm very pleased. It's a touch dark at times, but much of the film was shot that way, and I greatly prefer this darker tone to the possibility of a too bright result from heavy handed HDR, especially for this particular title. Too bright would have been a disaster. Blacks are beautifully rendered, and the color grading seems just right. Resolution is excellent, with beautifully rendered detail. I'd say it's easily 4 out of 5, or perhaps 4.5 on the grading scale. I don't yet own a universal player, so the Blu isn't useable at this point.

Viewing was via an OPPO UDP-205, and an LG 65" OLED 4K display.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Forum Sponsors

Latest Articles

Forum statistics

Threads
351,099
Messages
4,942,298
Members
142,984
Latest member
jamargparrish
Recent bookmarks
0
Top