Haha, that would be fun if possible.... a new featurette for Amityville II: The Possession would be fun to include shots of the Mexico studio where interiors were shot, the house used in the film (substantially changed and moved!) in Tom’s River and finally tracking down Jack Magner for exhaustive interviews, dammit. hahaLOL...LOL....I'd absolutely love to do the commentary with you on a 4K release of the title....
LOL...Haha, that would be fun if possible.... a new featurette for Amityville II: The Possession would be fun to include shots of the Mexico studio where interiors were shot, the house used in the film (substantially changed and moved!) in Tom’s River and finally tracking down Jack Magner for exhaustive interviews, dammit. haha
Yeah, I've read ALL the reviews for part II's Blu-ray; in fact, some reviewers are vague about whether or not the disc actually comes with a reworked 5.1 DTS-HD MA surround track (some Scream Factory releases do not carry a surround remix on them and instead boast their original stereo or mono mix).: Cool news about the UK version of the DVDs and that of Amityville II: The Possession ….looks like most of those particular video featurettes and the A. Holzer audio commentary (reportedly with huge gaps in between talking) and 5.1 audio remix was ported over to the 2013 Blu-ray release (in a Blu-ray trilogy with pt 2 not sold separately – chumps!)….but the video quality and audio quality are genuinely applauded on Blu-ray. Especially for the audio remix update (although not noted on the back slipcover for part 2, regardless; evidently the 5.1 mix is on the Blu-ray) – check that out. I’d like to get it…but the price keeps rising…..
This review likes the 5.1 audio mix with alluring surrounds:
although this review didn’t like the audio 5.1 mix as much, finding it hollow:
Special effects comparisons
Released 2/1982 – The Beast Within
Released 9/1982 - Amityville II: The Possession
I looked at special effects people, between the two films, on imdb.com, and didn’t see correlations….though I think special effects people of major Hollywood studios was a “small world” at that time…not sure. Amityville II The Possession looked more refined in some places….the warped arm…or the “go away damned bitch” veins popping on Magner’s face….yikes.
Wasn't that great; saw it on an On Demand cable channel and it was....I don't know....meh...Yes, you are right about the 2018’s Amityville Murders (about the DeFeos) film for TV with Diane Franklin, and Burt Young reprising the DeFeo story …I’m sure it has its moments, and I hope to see it someday.
Special Effects: Arm coming out of the wall detail
Here's something else I never picked up on before watching the film on DVD: I never really heard those whispering voices from behind that door in the basement -- when I first played the DVD edition, I was like "Whaaaa?? Holy shit....": The scene of the Magner under the house and the hand coming out of the wall. Scared the hell out of me as a kid – didn’t see that coming. Like a nightmare coming to life….and the set up just before it; him about to go back up the stairs but hears those sickening voices and turns around to that "lair" room…. But I never noticed blood shooting out of hand. I just played it, and yes, you are right; good catch ! A lot of blood shooting out of the middle finger – i never noticed that before with the backlighting and other water dripping. Yikes.
Special Effects Oops!: Crew’s foot
I watched this scene over and over, via the video you provided, and I STILL don't see the crew member's foot...: I did not see the effects tube in Magner's breaking head at the end! Another good catch…lol….yes, the 2005 DVD is really a strong transfer…there is also the catch of a crew’s feet (left) when the camera (demon's POV) swings from Sonny’s shoes to over his head….right at the 2:10 spot in the following link, you can see one crew person’s feet and they walk away:
Production design film comparisons
You mean Sonny's bedroom ceiling is really THAT ginormous?: I think Amityville II: The Possession's ceiling rafters generally match the walls previously after looking once more...
And the brand new car…aww.
Absolutely agreed -- SUPER sexy in every way...A milestone in life for sure. I enjoy Carpenter’s work, and liked Vampires, mostly because I adore Sheryl Lee, admittedly.
Oh no doubt The Thing was better -- can't really compare that to any of the man's other work save for, perhaps, Halloween.Most folks thought Woods was terrific in the film…I thought Woods was perfectly cast in Videodrome and his other works…but I’m in the minority with liking him in Vampire$, despite his sincere effort, and sharp & clever dialogue. From here on, I shan’t say anything bad about it. Except I thought JC’s 1982 film The Thing was more superior and alluring, perfectly cast, and re-watchable, great audio commentary as well - excellent in fact with JC and KR…. Anyway, yeah, that first building in Vampire$ looks too good and fatigued simultaneously, imo….
As did the demon’s previous turn of Trisha’s glammed up, lusty illusion “….you know my name” – DID NOT see that coming at all.
: The house raining within…uuhh….well, yup it’s ridiculous (with too much music also), but it looked good - the young crowds at the time probably didn’t care one whit LOL Haha…Just more Hollywood pandering to its target audience I guess….but if it were still and quiet, I think that w/have been creepier…and more realistic.
: Evidently there is a German VHS release including a cut scene of Sonny shooting his father first in the stomach. There are other deleted scenes as you mentioned with the lost souls, Jan trying to drown her brother in the bathtub, the trailer has the kids in the room which isn't in the film etc. Deleted scene:
DVD Special Features 2005
Indeed; I love the narration on those documentaries, too -- the voiceover is rather chilling and fitting:: Ok, I pulled out the 2005 Amityville Trilogy DVD set, and yes, the fourth Amityville Confidential DVD with the two History Channel episodes on Amityville….forgot all about them, Adam! I watched them again in the last few days. They were good for us fans – moved right along, capturing interviews with principle folks who have now passed away except the latter: Lutz’s, Weber, Holzer, E & L Warren, Laura D…. Now more of what you said made sense. …..plus, gosh, I’d say part of it is a hot mess of greed, jealousy and lawsuits as well LOL …great watch again after all these years. Drama outside of the house. Weber was a creep, if what the Lutz’s said was true (threat to talk to the kids at school, Weber suing the Lutz about parts of the story before production, DeFeo Jr getting some back-end payment from the production (!!) – that’s against the 1977 law: “Son of Sam”...if it could have been enforced around then)…hot mess LOL
I shall.: Watching 2012’s My Amityville Horror with the angry Daniel Lutz, then re-reading the infamous Amityville Horror right afterwards….can give you a different perspective on George, as mentioned. Keep us updated
I would have believed pretty much everything that George had reported up until that point -- I mean, the demonic presence followed them to San Diego after they fled the house, attacked them during a picnic, boomed loud commandments to George in the middle of public places...I'm just not buying that.: Amityville: The Final Chapter book …..ya know, I want to say I believe I read that a zillion years ago, b/c the cover is so familiar….but I don’t remember – looks interesting; I’m sure you are right that someone was stretching the $tory!
: And then there is Lalo Schifrin’s score ♫♪…. Similar to his work on Amityville Horror. But with part 2, I thought it was more foreboding with: aggressive-heavy cello (?), ghostly singing, and falling, dissonant melodies…. Really creepy I always thought. However, with briefer interludes, I think it was not as extensive as the first film, though with part 2, the score is....very dooming....
Absolutely agreed about the score; while the overtones are shared by the first two films, the child nursery rhyme-esque elements are even scarier and creepier in the sequel.
Great to read your thoughts, and those production pics. You should be a consultant on any future releases....I watched this scene over and over, via the video you provided, and I STILL don't see the crew member's foot...
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, Jim...Great to read your thoughts, and those production pics. You should be a consultant on any future releases.
So here are the crew person's feet I circled in red on the left...and you can see them walk away as the camera (POV demon) moves...it's only a few seconds:
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obviously clearer on dvd, but here is the weblink again...starts around 2:10...
oh, and looking at all this sequence, I just now noticed that Sonny's shirt went up a button from the prior shot....another shock haha.
Good catches on the additional continuity...Cool deal - Glad you could see it. I will confess that I was only tipped off to it, in this film's imdb.com's "goofs" section a few years ago - otherwise I would have missed it....a few more items in there too.
Boom mic shadow....I actually think I'm wrong: if you watch the lamp shade (same video) at 2:00, there is a shadow that runs across it, that I think is some kind of camera equipment....but re-watching, I think it's just Magner's shadow.
The more you study this film, the filmmakers, actors and crew really seemed to work hard to make the best film they could, and I really think it's worth our study and admiration of certain parts.
In this episode in particular, what's cool about it, also, is that it starts with the subject (sonny) at the top of the house....going down through to the bottom depths of the house, then back up to the top again - making the choreography fun and giving another semi-tour of the set's house to a degree
(Goof: though when Sonny crawls back up, the top stair's landing loses its rug prop in continuity - see the same video at 3:15)
.....Without giving away too many of the film's dramatic moments (aka spoilers) - in our discussions (gulp) - back to Jack Magner and the film style.... I was also was chilled at the end of the episode when the priest's blessing gave the illusion of blood, then to water.....THEN in a weird camera angle, Sonny-possessed falls back on the bed, and gives a throaty laugh.
Hey Adam,Good catches on the additional continuity...
As for that sequence when Adamsky is tricked into thinking blood is coming out of the sprinkler, you're right -- that's a wicked scene. And Rutanya Alda's ear-piercing shriek as it happens really bellows if you have the volume up high enough...
Here's some info: On the MGM DVD I have, which came along in the box set we both own, that following scene after Magner cackles on the bed -- when Olson is walking with his superior from the church -- exhibits a weird "pulsing" as if something went wrong with the transfer at that point...
Can you confirm if your Amityville II disc does this?
So you DO see the "pulsing" of the screen I'm talking about? If so, that means more than one batch received this disc with this error...Hey Adam,
Ok, I just watched and re-watched the men walking in the colonnade .....part of me thinks the pulsing is the exchange of natural, harsh mid-day sunlight coming above/behind the two men via behind the colonnade's columns intermediately shading the sun - & the backtracking camera not handling the differing exposure well....sort of... then on the other hand, the pulsing also seems out of sync with the passing colonnade's shadows, so it may indeed be an issue with the transfer as you say...in fact watching it a few times I think you are right.
Additionally, I was curious about the widescreen vs the full screen video image information.....
Particularly, if the full screen was pan and scan, showing less. Or full screen was "open matte," to show more picture real estate above and below (that can be the case w/ films shot around 1.85:1 like Amityville II). The scenes I compared, it looks like full screen is indeed pan and scan. The widescreen shows about the same top and bottom levels, but substantially more information on the sides.