Kelly Scott Rickards
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I just looked at the new Widescreen Review snippet on the new Yamaha Recievers and I must say Yamaha seems to be offering value pricing on their new recievers:
The article mentions that *ALL 6* recievers have DTS ES decoding (doesn't mention if its matrix or discrete, but I think its both)and DPL2, plus the new 32-bit YSS-938 Yamaha DSP(this chip does all the decoding)...
Look at the pricing:
The flagship RX-Z1 has an MSRP of 2799, which is cheaper than its RX-V1 predessessor was when it was introduced, I believe. This is also on the lower end of the pricing spectrum for a flagship reciever and it is not out of the question to think that the RX-Z1 could have a street price of 16-1800 dollars, Denon 4802 territory...
The RX-V3200 has an MSRP of 1599 and has most of the features of the RX-Z1 (it lacks some of the ins/out, watts per channel, and the Pronto-esque LCD touchscreen remote seen on the RX-Z1)
Lower down the line is where I see the value REALLY kick in
RX-V730
DPL2, DTS ES, 80watts x 6 channels, 32-bit YSS-938 yamaha DSP chip, 96/24 DACs
MSRP: $599
RX-V630
DPL2, DTS ES, 80watts x 6 channels, 32-bit YSS-938 yamaha DSP chip, 96/24 DACs(lacks the OSD, Phono in and LCD window on the remote of the RX-V730)
MSRP: $499
RX-V530
DPL2, DTS ES, 80watts x 5 channels(one channel fewer than the RX-V630,V730,ect), 32-bit YSS-938 yamaha DSP chip, 96/24 DACs
MSRP: $399
RX-V430
DPL2, DTS ES, 80watts x 5 channels, 32-bit YSS-938 yamaha DSP chip, 96/24 DACs(has fewer ins and outs than the RX-V530)
MSRP: $299
Now the WR article doesn't mention it, but since they all share the same DSP as the RX-Z1, it is possible the entire line will also include DDEX,DTS ES matrix & discrete decoding and DTS Neo:6 processing....
I say this because the WR article SPECIFICALLY mentions they *all* feature the YSS-938 DSP. According to this PDF brochure on the RX-V3200:http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/prod...fo/rxv3200.pdf
That DSP chip does all the above decoding/processing in these Yamaha recievers....
If my hunch turns out to be true, that would mean:
The $599 MSRP on the 6.1 channel RX-V730(with similar features) is 200 bucks less than the DENON AVR-2802 MSRP($799)
The $499 MSRP on the 6.1 channel RX-V630 is LESS than the *STREET* price of the similarly-featured Denon AVR 2802 (over 500 dollars online)
The RX-V530 has an MSRP only a few dollars more than the *STREET* price of an Onkyo 595 or Denon 1802, not to mention, unlike those 2, the RX-V530 can decode DTS ES and DDEX, plus it has DTS Neo:6
Not only does the RX-V430 have an MSRP around the same as the *STREET* price of the Denon 1602 (plus the added decoding the 1602 lacks), if this thing also has preouts, you will be able to buy it for less than *HALF* the price of an H/K AV520 and use the RX-V430 as a pre/pro with more decoding facilities than the Harmon Kardon unit!!!! In other words,can you say: "A $200 Outlaw 950 preamp???" [I knew you could ]
Don't forget, it is possible Yamaha will offer an HTR line of some of these recievers which could mean they would be EVEN CHEAPER!!!
I understand these are alot of *ifs*, but I feel the possibilities are enticing, nonetheless, and I can't wait to get more details....
I hope this starts a price war with the usual suspects (Onkyo, Denon, H/K, Marantz, et al)
The article mentions that *ALL 6* recievers have DTS ES decoding (doesn't mention if its matrix or discrete, but I think its both)and DPL2, plus the new 32-bit YSS-938 Yamaha DSP(this chip does all the decoding)...
Look at the pricing:
The flagship RX-Z1 has an MSRP of 2799, which is cheaper than its RX-V1 predessessor was when it was introduced, I believe. This is also on the lower end of the pricing spectrum for a flagship reciever and it is not out of the question to think that the RX-Z1 could have a street price of 16-1800 dollars, Denon 4802 territory...
The RX-V3200 has an MSRP of 1599 and has most of the features of the RX-Z1 (it lacks some of the ins/out, watts per channel, and the Pronto-esque LCD touchscreen remote seen on the RX-Z1)
Lower down the line is where I see the value REALLY kick in
RX-V730
DPL2, DTS ES, 80watts x 6 channels, 32-bit YSS-938 yamaha DSP chip, 96/24 DACs
MSRP: $599
RX-V630
DPL2, DTS ES, 80watts x 6 channels, 32-bit YSS-938 yamaha DSP chip, 96/24 DACs(lacks the OSD, Phono in and LCD window on the remote of the RX-V730)
MSRP: $499
RX-V530
DPL2, DTS ES, 80watts x 5 channels(one channel fewer than the RX-V630,V730,ect), 32-bit YSS-938 yamaha DSP chip, 96/24 DACs
MSRP: $399
RX-V430
DPL2, DTS ES, 80watts x 5 channels, 32-bit YSS-938 yamaha DSP chip, 96/24 DACs(has fewer ins and outs than the RX-V530)
MSRP: $299
Now the WR article doesn't mention it, but since they all share the same DSP as the RX-Z1, it is possible the entire line will also include DDEX,DTS ES matrix & discrete decoding and DTS Neo:6 processing....
I say this because the WR article SPECIFICALLY mentions they *all* feature the YSS-938 DSP. According to this PDF brochure on the RX-V3200:http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/prod...fo/rxv3200.pdf
That DSP chip does all the above decoding/processing in these Yamaha recievers....
If my hunch turns out to be true, that would mean:
The $599 MSRP on the 6.1 channel RX-V730(with similar features) is 200 bucks less than the DENON AVR-2802 MSRP($799)
The $499 MSRP on the 6.1 channel RX-V630 is LESS than the *STREET* price of the similarly-featured Denon AVR 2802 (over 500 dollars online)
The RX-V530 has an MSRP only a few dollars more than the *STREET* price of an Onkyo 595 or Denon 1802, not to mention, unlike those 2, the RX-V530 can decode DTS ES and DDEX, plus it has DTS Neo:6
Not only does the RX-V430 have an MSRP around the same as the *STREET* price of the Denon 1602 (plus the added decoding the 1602 lacks), if this thing also has preouts, you will be able to buy it for less than *HALF* the price of an H/K AV520 and use the RX-V430 as a pre/pro with more decoding facilities than the Harmon Kardon unit!!!! In other words,can you say: "A $200 Outlaw 950 preamp???" [I knew you could ]
Don't forget, it is possible Yamaha will offer an HTR line of some of these recievers which could mean they would be EVEN CHEAPER!!!
I understand these are alot of *ifs*, but I feel the possibilities are enticing, nonetheless, and I can't wait to get more details....
I hope this starts a price war with the usual suspects (Onkyo, Denon, H/K, Marantz, et al)