Gordon*K
Auditioning
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- Jun 8, 2004
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I've been browsing this forum for about a year, and learned a LOT! Lately however, I have been noticing my fronts (PSB Alphas, about 10 years old) don't seem to image well in stereo mode. I use my system for about 90% HT, but I would like better music performance.
For example, listening to music, the position of the instruments seems poorly defined, mostly between the speakers, and the instruments seem to "move" around a bit.
This has started to bug me, so I'm in the market for a speaker upgrade. BTW, in DD mode, flyovers, effects, etc, seem localized well, extend "outside" of the speakers, etc. Like many here, my HT, though modest, is easily better than the movie theater
On to my setup. I picked my condo partially for the living room's HT friendly shape, not perfect, but good. It's a rectangle, (with opening thru to kitchen/dining room on one side, and stairs at the rear)about 14X18, with TV and LRC along one short side, seating in the center, rears on the back wall facing forward.
My gear: PSB Alphas, and 100C center, JBL n24II rears, Denon 1603 AVR, Pioneer DVD player, Sony WAM40 sub, Tosh 32A32 TV (need a bigger screen!!), digital cable, etc.
The fronts are spaced evenly apart, on 24" stands, slightly less distance apart than the distance to the listening area, decent interconnects and wire, etc. ( I did my homework).
So, any ideas on the imaging problem? I have tried further apart/closer together, etc. My Denon dealer says it's their age, newer speakers will sound better.
The room acoustics aren't great, I guess, a hand clap produces that kind of echoey "ring", but the room is carpeted, with blinds, pictures, bookshelves, part of the prob may be the openings to DR, and stairway, but I can't change that.
At this point, I really want an improvement, I am even considering going 2.1 for now, to get a better sound stage.
(with an HSU STF-2 replacing the Sony)
I am considering Paradigm for a 5.1 setup, Titans, Atoms, and CC170, based on an audition many years ago, I preferred them to the Alphas, should have bought 'em then.
I auditioned Polk RTi6's and like the "airiness", but they were a bit too "crisp" I thought.
LSi7's sound like they would work well for me, but I would have to go 2.1 for now, and add center and rears as I go.
Ascend acoustics also interest me, but I have not found any used (probably a good sign), the others I could get on ebay for a considerable savings.
I could go JBL, E30s would probably match my N24II rears ok, (same tweeter), but I can only audition them at BB (horrible listening area)and have heard they might not be a step up in terms of imaging and "musicality"
Also,the Ascend and LSi7 are 4 ohm, my dealer says okay with the 1603, but I think I read a post that said they may not run so well with my Denon.
So, The paradigm setup seems a good choice, but will the stereo imaging satisfy me? I know this is a tough question, but any help you all can give would be MUCH appreciated.
For example, listening to music, the position of the instruments seems poorly defined, mostly between the speakers, and the instruments seem to "move" around a bit.
This has started to bug me, so I'm in the market for a speaker upgrade. BTW, in DD mode, flyovers, effects, etc, seem localized well, extend "outside" of the speakers, etc. Like many here, my HT, though modest, is easily better than the movie theater
On to my setup. I picked my condo partially for the living room's HT friendly shape, not perfect, but good. It's a rectangle, (with opening thru to kitchen/dining room on one side, and stairs at the rear)about 14X18, with TV and LRC along one short side, seating in the center, rears on the back wall facing forward.
My gear: PSB Alphas, and 100C center, JBL n24II rears, Denon 1603 AVR, Pioneer DVD player, Sony WAM40 sub, Tosh 32A32 TV (need a bigger screen!!), digital cable, etc.
The fronts are spaced evenly apart, on 24" stands, slightly less distance apart than the distance to the listening area, decent interconnects and wire, etc. ( I did my homework).
So, any ideas on the imaging problem? I have tried further apart/closer together, etc. My Denon dealer says it's their age, newer speakers will sound better.
The room acoustics aren't great, I guess, a hand clap produces that kind of echoey "ring", but the room is carpeted, with blinds, pictures, bookshelves, part of the prob may be the openings to DR, and stairway, but I can't change that.
At this point, I really want an improvement, I am even considering going 2.1 for now, to get a better sound stage.
(with an HSU STF-2 replacing the Sony)
I am considering Paradigm for a 5.1 setup, Titans, Atoms, and CC170, based on an audition many years ago, I preferred them to the Alphas, should have bought 'em then.
I auditioned Polk RTi6's and like the "airiness", but they were a bit too "crisp" I thought.
LSi7's sound like they would work well for me, but I would have to go 2.1 for now, and add center and rears as I go.
Ascend acoustics also interest me, but I have not found any used (probably a good sign), the others I could get on ebay for a considerable savings.
I could go JBL, E30s would probably match my N24II rears ok, (same tweeter), but I can only audition them at BB (horrible listening area)and have heard they might not be a step up in terms of imaging and "musicality"
Also,the Ascend and LSi7 are 4 ohm, my dealer says okay with the 1603, but I think I read a post that said they may not run so well with my Denon.
So, The paradigm setup seems a good choice, but will the stereo imaging satisfy me? I know this is a tough question, but any help you all can give would be MUCH appreciated.