All studios - PLEASE CLOSE CAPTION EXTRAS

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  1. Matt A

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    To all the studios out there:
    I have been a fan of the DVD format since the very beginning and I'm an avid movie fan, buying DVDs left and right. One thing I've noticed is that VERY RARELY are extra features closed captioned or subtitled.
    This has disappointed me greatly because I have so many DVDs and yet I can't appreciate all of them to the extent that I could because of the lack of subtitling or closed captioning for the extra features and the audio commentaries. I'm not alone in this. There are millions of hearing impaired people as well as hearing people who would love to have this feature.
    I realize it costs money to do this, but I think it would be offset by the people who will buy the DVDs knowing they would get their full money's worth. Please keep up the good work.
    Anyone who feels the same, join in this thread and so we can let them know that there is a demand for this.
    Thank you for your time.
    Matt
     
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    Actually, I would prefer subtitles, as there are some DVD players that do not let the CC signal go through (like my JVC, for example)(and if you believe their customer support person who wrote to me, JVC doesn't believe that DVDs are closed captioned).
    But if I have to get another player, so be it. I want SOMETHING...either CC or subs.
    Deaf people are NOT the only people who use either of these features.
    D
     
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  4. Mikah Cerucco

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    Matt A said:
     
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    Count me in. Before I got my hearing aids, I would sometimes just go nuts trying to figure stuff out. Even since I've had them, I still don't hear 100%, and still rely a lot on subs/CC. As bad as I have it, I know there are many out there who have it even worse, especially those who are totally deaf. It's a sad sad sad shame that this is an issue at all.
     
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    I wish I could find out what it is that is not allowing the CC signal to make it to my TV from the DVD player. What would keep this from happening? No one has answered my post in the hardware section and I don't know who to ask.
    Criterion is another company that I wish would subtitle the extras. Loads of extras, and not a clue what they're saying on most of them.
     
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    Count me in also. Captioning/Subtitles on the Extra features should ALWAYS be included. To not provide this basic feature is discrimination against the hearing impaired.
    Jim
     
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    Matt A said: quote: I want a reason why they're not doing it. Too expensive? Too short of a schedule. I have to wonder though. Doesn't the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) cover this? It required that videos be closed captioned. As far as I know, DVDs are videos and therefore they should be covered. I should look into this soon.[/quote]
    You might want to start here: Captioning FAQ
    Of particular interest is the section on Captioning Laws . The ADA does NOT specifically address captioning for non-government funded programs. It is implied in several areas, but I'm not aware of any court cases that have tested this.
    In fact, you might want to look at the section Where Captioning Isn't Required as it says that captioning on DVD (and VHS) has been purely optional since there is no broadcasting involved and thus the FCC has no jurisdiction over it. Again, it might fail ADA guidelines, but that hasn't been tested yet.
    I'm sure that legally the studios are doing what is required of them. They do have lots of lawyers on the payroll after all. :) I'm going to see if I can find a contact in the government or an attorney that has experience in this area. You guys should feel free to do the same. Seems that given the cost, it'd be a simple thing for them to just go ahead and do it (like Paramount has done).
    OK, here's an ADA Information Line within the Department of Justice covering the Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA). The number is (800) 514-0301 (voice) or (800) 514-0383 (TDD). I still see the ADA as mostly dealing with Employement and public function accessibility, but we'll see how it goes.
    [Edited last by Mikah Cerucco on August 11, 2001 at 11:32 PM]
     
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    I am a big fan of DVD's and I am also hard of hearing. I buy most of DVD's for the extras and to find out there is no caption on the extras really dissapoints me. I bought the Dogma DVD just for the 100 hours of extra footage and low and behold I can't even watch them. If there is anywhere to write to or a petiton please let me know I would gladly write or sign something to get all extras captioned. I did buy the Planet of Apes DVD and was pleasantly surprised that the extra were captioned. There is no possible way to get these captioned now, is there?
     
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    I wholeheartedly agree, and I think subtitling should be used, as opposed to closed captions, but if converting between the two is easy, I'm all for both (Even though I understand the two can be put to not necessarily the same use)
     
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    I am pleasantly surprised that there are people out there with no hearing problems that are for subtitles or captions in movies and extras. My wife and I are deaf and we cannot get by watching a movie with no captions at all. We just bought a dvd player and rented our first dvd movie to watch "How the Grinch Stole Christmas." Imagine the disappointment when for some reason the captions didn't work. I don't know if it was the dvd player or the dvd itself but the subtitles worked though. I went and rented another movie to see if there was a problem with the dvd player. It works fine. Although, the Grinch movie was watchable, we really prefer captions as it would catch almost every words spoken. Subtitles seem to take some shortcuts on some sentences which we feel is unacceptable. The narrator in the movie was speaking and there were no subtitles to be seen which was annoying!

    One other thing, even though I am deaf, I wear hearing aids and enjoy listening to music. I see that some dvd music videos are not captioned which is disappointing. I am hoping to get the new AC/DC dvd for Christmas and it is not captioned!
     

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