All In The Family appears to be uncut!

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  1. David Lambert

    David Lambert Executive Producer

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    I just received today my first review copy of anything, and it is All In The Family. I will be reviewing it exclusively for TVShowsOnDVD, since it is Gord who arranged for me to receive this.
    I'll let you know when the review is posted, for anyone who's interested. I intend to have it written before the weekend is over. Since this is my first official review, I don't intend to rush it either (sharp lookers may have noticed my "practice" review, for the Super Mario Super Show).
    The big news is this:
    The running time on the 1st and 13th episodes both clocked in at 25:52, give or take a second. Assuming all 13 episodes are about that length, that multiplies out to 336 minutes (compared to the box's mention of 286 minutes).
    [rant]That appears to be uncut to me![/rant]
    When I get to it, I will jump to the end of all 13 episodes just to record their running times, and give you definitive answers as the to running time of each episode, each disc, and the entire set.
    All part of the service, ma'am! [​IMG]
     
  2. MatthewA

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    Sounds good so far! I can't wait to hear about it.
     
  3. David Lambert

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    Episodes:

    1 - 25:53

    2 - 25:52

    3 - 26:16

    4 - 25:38

    5 - 26:07

    6 - 26:07

    7 - 25:59

    8 - 26:13

    9 - 25:49

    10 - 26:12

    11 - 25:37

    12 - 26:04

    13 - 25:51

    Disc 1 - 104 minutes

    Disc 2 - 104 minutes

    Disc 3 - 130 minutes

    Total Package: 338 minutes

    Not 286, as stated on the package!

    [rant]UNCUT[/rant]
     
  4. Tom Brennan

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    Great news!!!

    I will now officially place my order!!
     
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    Thanks for the heads-up, David! I also look forward to your review. [​IMG]
     
  6. MatthewA

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    Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

    Sorry, Columbia House.
     
  7. Brian Perry

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    Amazing how commercials have doubled in length over the last 25 years!

    However, I wouldn't assume that AITF is uncut just from the running times. There could be very small snippets missing.
     
  8. Kevin Porter

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    What packaging did they use? Cardboard foldout like Twin Peaks and Simpsons or plain case like M*A*S*H*?

    ~Kevin
     
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    What's the typical running time for these in syndication?
     
  10. Malcolm R

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    If held to current day standards for commercial insertion, likely 22 minutes or less.
     
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    The typical running time for these programs in syndication is 22 minutes. Sometimes less, as for more recent shows (such as The Simpsons), but rarely are the uncut versions shown except by special request. Syndicators make the cuts, and many times the results can be disastrous.

    By the 1980s, commercial time on TV had increased by about two minutes per hour, to 10 minutes per hour.

    So, for example, The Cosby Show would be at 8:00 PM and run at 25 minutes, then Family Ties would come on at 8:30 and run 24 minutes (to accomodate NBC's News Digest near the end of the hour).

    Hourlong shows would run about 49 minutes.

    The National Association of Broadcasters used to have a "Code of Good Practice" which included the amount of commercial time per hour. In 1982, early in the era of deregulation, regulations were lifted, and networks slowly began adding more commercials.

    That's why an uncut All in the Family episode runs longer than an uncut present day sitcom.
     
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    March 26 is taking forever to get here.[​IMG] Will stores like Wal*Mart and Target have AITF on 3/26 or will I probably have to order it online?
     
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    When you time something in syndication these days, you can't just look for obvious missing content to know what alterations are made. There are four ways alterations are made off the top of my head:
    1) Editing credits. When was the last time you heard the full 'Cheers' theme?
    2) Time compression. Sometimes with, sometimes without 'chipmunk' voices.
    3) Removing content (full or partial shots and scenes).
    4) Removing one or a few frames here and there. This is the hot new thing.
    Most syndicated shows combine 2 or 3 of these practices. Some stuff like 'Sports Night' has been chopped for cable less than 1 year after the same original episodes aired on network TV!
     
  14. David Lambert

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    Kevin Porter, I've got the packaging in my hands. It is EXACTLY like the one for The Larry Sanders Show.
    If you're not familiar with that, let's just say it's closest to The Simpsons, but without an extra panel for the chapter stop insert to sit in. The chapter stop insert just floats loose, folded into the closed panels. And the side of the disc holder is visible from the opposing spine.
    Hey, if a mod stumbles across this thread, perhaps it can be merged with the existing thread about this release. That thread is here. I see that this was done!
     
  15. Kevin Porter

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    Well I'm extremely happy that the put some thought into the packaging. I've seen the Larry Sanders packaging on shelves at various places and I assumed it was in fact cardboard. I just hope that they put as much thought into the packaging as they do the extras on Season 2. BTW, I saw on DDD that the pilot is included. Is this true?

    ~Kevin
     
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    I wouldn't actually call the packaging on Larry Sanders "thoughtful." They could've AT LEAST made a pocket on the inside to store that insert with the episode listing.
     
  17. David Lambert

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    Brian Perry said:
     
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    As much as I'm looking forward to the set, I am truly disappointed in the packaging. "Thoughtful" is 2 1/2 times as long as the word I'd use.
     
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    Tony I : Yes, that's the missing pilot, according to this post (which is the one I was thinking of...curse you for making my lazy ass go search for it! [​IMG] ).
     

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