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Alfred Hitchcock films in 4K??

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Osato, Nov 11, 2019.

  1. Colin Jacobson

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    I wouldn't see that box as anything meaningful. It's just a repackage and could be a last gasp to sell those BDs before they release remastered versions...
     
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    It's just a nice box of junk edition.
     
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    What we think of two very old black and white Hitchcock movies is probably not going to make much of a difference for Universal. Added resolution compared to a regular Blu-ray would not really be an advantage here nor better colors plus these are not very well known to a larger audience. His later movies shot in VistaVision and of course Psycho and possibly The Birds are better candidates for a UHD release as they are popular and/or look very good.
     
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    My picks for UHD would be three of the VistaVision titles: North by Northwest (all time favourite film), Vertigo, To Catch Thief. White Christmas should also be a candidate.
     
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    White Christmas isn't a Hitchcock film.
     
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    No, but it was the first film released in VistaVision (hence the connection) and looks superb on blu ray.
     
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    Is there non-movie material in there or just a collection of already-released BDs?

    When I hear the phrase "box of junk", I think a package that includes stuff like toys or postcards or whatever, not one that just includes discs. Haven't paid any attention to the recent Hitch box so I have no idea what's in it!
     
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    This collection looks to be a re-release of a previous set called Hitchcock: The Ultimate Filmmaker Collection from 2013.

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    The UK films, and most of those in the Colonies, were not produced 4k.
     
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    No 'films' were produced 4K. Films are analog. 4K is, by definition, a digital term.
     
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    The problem with the Hitchcocks is the elements are just a plain ol mess in most cases.
     
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    I’ll state it another way. None of those analogue productions have anywhere close to 4k resolution. The Blu-ray format is perfect for them.
     
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    Thanks for pointing that out, Blu-ray is perfect imo for older 35mm black and white productions and as it seems that studios strongly limit the number of catalog UHD releases I would hope that these limited resources are put to better use than to release titles that have comparatively little to gain from the UHD format.

    At the same time we are still waiting for studios to finally start rolling out more large format productions from the roadshow era of the 50s and 60s in UHD. These are movies that would gain a lot more from being released in UHD and yet we are still waiting for Ben-Hur, Spartacus, Lawrence of Arabia, The Sound of Music, My Fair Lady, Oklahoma, Vertigo, North By Northwest or Hello Dolly to make it to UHD.

    I certainly would not have expected that only one of these movies would have been released 3 1/2 years into the format, so hopefully the studios will give us some of these titles in the near future, the wait has been long enough.
     
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    In particular we are waiting with less and less patience for Sony to do whatever needs to be done with the elements for Barabbas and Lord Jim, both of which looked magnificent when I saw them on the big screen when they were new.
     
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    I was lucky to be able see Lord Jim in 70mm quite recently but I believe I have never really watched Barabbas.
    So yes, both would be very welcome and my personal favorite among the two would be Barabbas.
     
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    So basically the best results you're going to get out of the Hitchcock catalog for 4k AT PRESENT (good luck restoring Trouble With Harry and Man Who Knew Too Much) are from these titles:

    Dial "M" for Murder
    Vertigo
    North By Northwest
    Marnie
    Torn Curtain
    Topaz
    Frenzy
    Family Plot
     
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    These should be the relatively easy to bring to UHD as they are already available as a 4k DCP:

    3 movies shot in VistaVision:
    Vertigo
    North By Northwest
    To Catch a Thief

    3 black and white movies from the 40s and 30s:
    Rebecca
    Jamaica Inn
    Notorious

    https://www.parkcircus.com/explore_films?query=hitchcock&format=4K DCP&genre=&decade=&territory=&language=&rights=&studio=

    I do not think that the 40s and 30s titles really desperately need a UHD release so the three VistaVision titles would be the obvious choices. The two are among the most popular Hitchcock films which is why I mentioned them in a previous post. To Catch a Thief may look the best based on where and how it was shot, to me it is the best looking Hitchcock film.

    As for your list the last 5 should not have that many issues with the negatives but I would not know if they are particularly popular Hitchcock titles? I would think Marnie and Frenzy are probably the most popular ones among them. As for Dial M for Murder it is highly rated but I do not know about the condition of the negative nor do I think that a movie that basically plays indoors in only one room is an ideal candidate for a UHD release.
     
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    The advantage To Catch a Thief has is its still owned by Paramount who's taken better care of the elements, as opposed to the rather poor 4-perf reductions that Universal has had to work with on most of their 50s titles.
     
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    To be fair, Robert, didn't you say the same thing when Superman 4K was announced?
     
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    Why does THE TROUBLE WITH HARRY look so beautiful and FAMILY PLOT looks so awful?
     

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