After seeing Dogma and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back....

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  1. John Randolph

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    I went to IMDB and was looking at the info for Smith's upcoming "Jersey Girl", and I noticed it will be rated PG-13. Looks like Smith will be headed into "clean" territory, which is much different from his previous works. Any opinions?

    Also, which of the two movies did you think was better? I prefered Dogma, but Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back was very funny.
     
  2. Adam Lenhardt

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    John: As Chasing Amy was Smith's reaction to his failed relationship with Joey Lauren Adams, Jersey Girl is his reaction to becoming a father. For Amy he thought he'd have to go the R route, for Girl he obviously feels that he can accomplish what he needs to with a cleaner script.
     
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  4. Dome Vongvises

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    Actually according to Kevin Smith himself, the film Chasing Amy had mostly to do with Kevin Smith confronting ex-girlfriends' sexual history and how his jealousies and inadequacy wrecked a good relationship, you know the kind of stuff that drives normal people up the wall? [​IMG]
    It was pretty funny when he made that joke about Superman/Clark Kent being mad at Lois and asking her how many d**ks she's sucked. [​IMG]
     
  5. Adam Lenhardt

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    I wasn't arguing Matthew's factoid, I was simply pointing out the source of my comment. And regardless of whether they were still involved at the time, it is (as they say) a failed relationship.
     
  8. Matt Stone

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    Yes...but Chasing Amy wasn't Smith's "reaction to his failed relationship with Joey Lauren Adams," it was his reaction to the releationship in general, as it hadn't failed at the time.
     
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    So many damn coincidences in each and everyone one of my days. Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is on right now, right on the stank nuggggggetts part and that "muscle man" (high school friend of Smith's) from Clerks.

    I'd have to say I like J&SBSB WAY more than Dogma because it's a movie solely on the hilarious friggin duo. The humor is me, my best friend, and my brother in a movie. That's why I like the movie so damn much. Ever since I saw the movie, I've become a HUGE ass Kevin Smith fan. So damn clever and just "simple funny."

    Although Dogma did make fun of the "holes" in the Roman Catholic religion (It's OK, I have the rights, I myself am a Roman Catholic), it still doesn't compete with a plot revolving around the greatest on screen duo to date plus link every other KS movie in some way or another.

    I enjoy (note present tense, it doesn't get old) the extras. I seriously can say I can watch the featurette over and over again. It's so damn funny and awesome to see such awesome behind the scenes. I'm sure some people give some hot garbage "I really enjoyed this so very much." yadda yadda. but THIS movie truly kicks ass.

    *Fictional characters*

    -Bert
     
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    The way-too-vulgar dialogue is the only real problem I've had with Smith's films. I've been watching the expletive-free "Clerks" cartoon (which, admittedly, differs from the film in a lot of ways besides the cleaned-up dialogue) a lot lately. It's my favorite View Askew production; better than any of the movies, I think.
     
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    Sorry, Adam,

    I wasn't setting out beat you down, I thought I would just provide some context that I remembered from the time the movie came out. I apologize for that, plus the fact that we've gone off the original topic.

    And to comment on the original post, I'm really looking forward to seeing what Kevin Smith can do outside the "dick and fart joke" realm. I really liked the more dramatic aspects of CHASING AMY, and I think Smith can write great characters when he gets down to it.
     
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    No problem, Derek![​IMG] All is well. I was simply commenting to Matt that the issue was getting to nitpicky to have any relevance. No feelings were hurt or anything, regardless!
    We now return to our regularly scheduled thread topic.
     
  14. David Rogers

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    Hmmmm

    I've never heard ANYONE say they like Smith better when he's using clean language, vs his natural patter. I vastly prefer his natural wording, cursing, anatomy laced, and all.
     
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    Did anyone else feel that J&SB was pretty much the same movie as Dogma? J&SB are on the road in each of them, fighting jewel theives in one, and demons in the other.

    Besides the essentially identical plots, neither film had a distinctive "look" that would set them apart from each other - both looked like Lorne Michaels SNL movies.

    Such a drop down in quality from Chasing Amy, visually, and storywise.

    I loved Clerks, and the Animated series, and Amy... and I'll buy Mallrats once the price drops from the stratosphere.
     
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