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AFI's 100 Years....100 Passions

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Kirk Tsai, Mar 22, 2002.

  1. Kirk Tsai

    Kirk Tsai Screenwriter

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    Okay, so we all know lists are generally silly and fun. The AFI's previous efforts have generated much debate, but that generally seems to be most of the fun. While I was browsing around online today, I found out that AFI will once again push out yet another list, this time emphasizing on romance. As usual, they already have 400 films that are nominated. This time the show will be aired on CBS in June.
    Here is the general info on this:
    http://www.afi.com/tv/passions.asp
    Here is the 400 movies nominated (pdf):
    http://www.afi.com/tv/pdf/passions400.pdf
    I'm wondering if any of the members here would like to pile their own 100 passions. It could be fun to compare and contrast, as well as looking back at each one's lists when AFI's comes out in a few months. Anyone wanna try this?
     
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    #1 should be City Lights.
     
  3. george kaplan

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    I'll look at the list and select my choice for the top 100, but I'll have to wait til I have a bit more time.
     
  4. Craig S

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    I'll predict right now that Number 1 will be Casablanca.
     
  5. Thi Them

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  6. george kaplan

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    I've looked at the list and, not too surprisingly, am less than enthralled with their top 400 romances. Superman 2, The Fly and I Married a Monster From Outer Space are in, but North by Northwest, Sullivan's Travels, The Seven Year Itch and American Grafitti are not? Oh well.

    I came up with a hundred, and restricted myself to their 400, but it wasn't easy. Frankly, the bottom of my list is filler, not in the sense that they're bad movies, but in the sense that I don't like them enough for them to really be on my top 100 list of anything. But I had to come up with 100, so here it is:



    1THE APARTMENT

    2CASABLANCA

    3SOME LIKE IT HOT

    4VERTIGO

    5IT’S A WONDERFUL LIFE

    6THE GRADUATE

    7THE AFRICAN QUEEN

    8THE PRINCESS BRIDE

    9TO HAVE & HAVE NOT

    10ADAM’S RIB

    11DOUBLE INDEMNITY

    12CHARADE

    13PILLOW TALK

    14THE POSTMAN ALWAYS RINGS TWICE

    15THE SOUND OF MUSIC

    16WHAT’S UP DOC?

    17BRINGING UP BABY

    18THE THIN MAN

    19GROUNDHOG DAY

    20TOP HAT

    21THE PHILADELPHIA STORY

    22GREASE

    23WEST SIDE STORY

    24REBECCA

    25BEAUTY & THE BEAST

    26MY FAIR LADY

    27OUT OF THE PAST

    28BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S

    29SABRINA

    30IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT

    31FORREST GUMP

    32CITY LIGHTS

    33ROCKY

    34TO CATCH A THIEF

    35THE GHOST & MRS. MUIR

    36THE BISHOP'S WIFE

    37MY MAN GODFREY

    38BAREFOOT IN THE PARK

    39NOTORIOUS

    40LADY & THE TRAMP

    41DESK SET

    42THAT TOUCH OF MINK

    43NINOTCHKA

    44HOUSEBOAT

    45PLAY IT AGAIN, SAM

    46LAURA

    47INDISCREET

    48SAME TIME, NEXT YEAR

    49CINDERELLA

    50THE LITTLE MERMAID

    51AN AFFAIR TO REMEMBER

    52THE SHOP AROUND THE CORNER

    53GOODBYE, MR. CHIPS

    54BELL, BOOK & CANDLE

    55MARNIE

    56PAT & MIKE

    57MEET ME IN ST. LOUIS

    58WHEN HARRY MET SALLY

    59THE GOODBYE GIRL

    60HOLIDAY

    61SOUTH PACIFIC

    62SPELLBOUND

    63THE PURPLE ROSE OF CAIRO

    64HEAVEN CAN WAIT

    65YOU'VE GOT MAIL

    66NOTTING HILL

    67ROMANCING THE STONE

    68THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR (1999)

    69ROMAN HOLIDAY

    70NOTHING SACRED

    71WOMAN OF THE YEAR

    72THE AWFUL TRUTH

    73THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT

    74THE BACHELOR & THE BOBBY-SOXER

    75THE FARMER'S DAUGHTER

    76AN OFFICER & A GENTLEMAN

    77THE MAJOR & THE MINOR

    78PRETTY WOMAN

    79GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER

    80THE LADY EVE

    81SWING TIME

    82SINGIN' IN THE RAIN

    83MY FAVORITE WIFE

    84BALL OF FIRE

    85THE KING & I

    86I MARRIED A WITCH

    87HIS GIRL FRIDAY

    88THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT MARY

    89SAN FRANCISCO

    90SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE

    91SPLASH

    92SAYONARA

    93THE CROWD

    94SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE

    95ON GOLDEN POND

    96OKLAHOMA

    97LOLITA

    98WHILE YOU WERE SLEEPING

    99NOW, VOYAGER

    100HUMORESQUE
     
  7. Kirk Tsai

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    To be honest, I probably haven't seen most of the 400 films, and some of my guesses are purely guesses, with their reputation in mind. I am assuming that the list will be emphasized on "passion" first and foremost, not the overall movie quality, though that has to count for something as well. Whatever definition one gives to "passion" is the voter's own call.

    Top ten movies which I think are most driven by passion:

    1. Vertigo

    2. Casablanca

    3. Sunrise

    4. Gone With the Wind

    5. The Graduate

    6. West Side Story

    7. Roman Holiday

    8. The African Queen

    9. Double Indemnity

    10. Notorious

    My 100:

    Adam's Rib

    An Affair to Remember

    The African Queen

    The Age of Innocence

    An American in Paris

    The American President

    Annie Hall

    The Apartment

    As Good as it Gets

    Beauty and the Beast

    Body Heat

    Breakfast at Tiffany's

    The Bridges of Madison County

    Bringing Up Baby

    Casablanca

    Charade

    Chasing Amy

    Cinderella

    City Lights

    Cleopatra (Fox)

    Days of Heaven

    Dirty Dancing

    Doctor Zhivago

    Double Indemnity

    Duel In The Sun

    The End of the Affair

    The English Patient

    From Here to Eternity

    Ghost

    Gigi

    Gone With the Wind

    The Graduate

    Grease

    Groundhog Day

    Guess Who's Coming to Dinner

    Gun Crazy

    Hannah and Her Sisters

    Harold and Maude

    Heaven Can Wait

    Holiday

    Indiscreet

    It Happened One Night

    It's A Wonderful Life

    Jerry Maguire

    The King and I

    King Kong

    Lady and the Tramp

    Last Tango in Paris

    Laura

    Leaving Las Vegas

    The Little Mermaid

    Lolita

    Manhattan

    Marnie

    Marty

    Moonstruck

    My Best Friend's Wedding

    My Fair Lady

    9 1/2 Weeks

    Ninotchka

    Notorious

    Notting Hill

    An Officer and a Gentleman

    The Philadelphia Story

    Pillow Talk

    A Place in the Sun

    The Quiet Man

    Rebecca

    Reds

    The Remains of the Day

    Roman Holiday

    Romancing the Stone

    Sabrina

    Say Anything

    Sense and Sensibility

    Shakespeare In Love

    The Shop Around the Corner

    Singin' In The Rain

    Sleepless in Seatle

    Some Like It Hot

    Somewhere In Time

    The Sound of Music

    Spellbound

    Splash

    A Star is Born (1954)

    A Streetcar Named Desire

    Summertime

    Sunrise

    The Thomas Crown Affair (1968)

    Titanic

    To Catch a Thief

    To Have and Have Not

    Top Hat

    The Unbrearable Lightness of Being

    Vertigo

    The Way We Were

    West Side Story

    When Harry Met Sally

    Witness

    You've Got Mail
     
  8. Josh_Hill

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    Im glad Chasing Amy was nominated. Finally that film is getting the recognition is deserves!
     
  9. Seth Paxton

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    I 100% agree on those 3 Thi. I'd be surprised if it was any other way. Some of my guesses -

    Casablanca

    Gone With the Wind

    Titanic

    I think others near the top will be:

    West Side Story

    The Philadelphia Story

    The Apartment

    Sleepless in Seattle

    When Harry Met Sally

    Vertigo

    From Here to Eternity

    The Graduate

    It Happened One Night

    some that should make it but not as high:

    Love Story

    An Officer and a Gentleman

    The Way We Were

    Wuthering Heights

    Lolita

    some maybe could sneak in near the top:

    Ghost

    Body Heat

    I do think Chasing Amy will make the list, but near the bottom.

    edit - let me add that City Lights is one of my fav romantic films and will probably fare at least decently on this list, though probably not near the top.
     
  10. Thi Them

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    Don't forget that the 3-hour special is tonight. Anyone who uses AOL IM might want to be careful about clicking on that AFI link. I think it took me to the number 1 greatest love movie.

    I still stand by my top 3 predictions: Gone With the Wind, Casablanca and Titanic.

    ~T
     
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    Here are 10 movies I think might fill up the rest of the top 10: Annie Hall, West Side Story, When Harry Met Sally, It's a Wonderful Life, City Lights, The Graduate, It Happened One Night, Doctor Zhivago, Tootsie, and Some Like It Hot.

    ~T
     
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    Thi, I agree with you and think it's notable that in each of those three movies, the guy does not get the girl at the end, definitely not the norm in Hollywood, and in part what makes these movies great (oops, ok, except for the movie about the boat [​IMG]) While the Top 100 Movies, Comedies, and Film Legends I found interesting, the lists are getting more vague, with Heart-Pounding Movies and now Passions being more open to personal preference.
    George Kaplan, think you can change the Signature now [​IMG]
    Chris
     
  13. george kaplan

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    I certainly hope to do so Wednesday night. Keeping my fingers crossed. [​IMG]
     
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    Great list all-around. Some noticeable absences where I am concerned were: Romeo and Juliet (1968 version), Meet Me In St. Louis, and Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
     
  15. Bill Huelbig

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    Another good show from the AFI. #1 and #2 were foregone conclusions, but I'm really happy that WEST SIDE STORY came in at #3. And since VERTIGO made the top 20 and KING KONG made the top 25, and THE GHOST AND MRS. MUIR and MARTY made the final cut, I have no complaints.

    --Bill
     
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    I'm watching the west coast feed of it right now, after watching it on east coast first. [​IMG] I love film, what can I say.
    As seen above I had 1 and 2, like that was any surprise or even wrong (sorry guys, but I think AFI got those 2 right)
    City Lights did much better than I hoped for, which it deserves (#10).
    West Side Story sure did do well, as did Vertigo and From Here to Eternity though I thought Eternity would go even higher.
    Ghost ended up sneaking in near the top like I had guessed.
    I think The Graduate should have been higher.
    I totally spaced on It's a Wonderful Life which is rather obvious when you think about it.
    Roman Holiday was a surprise at #4 I thought. And I was suprised at how far down Titanic ended up.
    Funniest line of the show:
    Conway to Korman - "Would you have killed YOUR wife for Elizabeth Taylor?"
    Korman - "I'd have killed her for Shelly Winters."
    [​IMG] Conway couldn't stop laughing at that one, it was so unexpected. Those 2 are still funny.
     
  17. Seth Paxton

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    BTW, Body Heat at 94 is crazy.

    That film has more passion in it's little finger than most films do in their whole body, or something like that.

    Maybe not top 10 but top 30 at least. Just for the chair through the window at the very least.

    Dirty Dancing needed to be higher than Ghost, IMO.

    And Notorious was too low by being at 86.

    I would have moved Roxanne down, though I enjoy the film. And I don't think American President should have been on the list at all.
     
  18. Thi Them

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    Seth, I probably would be watching it again too if I got both feeds. I just love watching these specials that celebrate movies.

    I think I was able to predict 6 of the top 10 and 7 of the top 11 right, not bad. And I haven't seen An Affair to Remember, The Way We Were, and Love Story.

    I'm glad City Lights made it into the top 10, although I thought that it wouldn't make it very high.

    Roman Holiday was suprising. I would replace that with It Happened One Night, which I remember being quite similar.

    Korman's line about Shelly Winters was hilarious. I think the person off camera even laughed at it.

    ~T
     
  19. Kirk Tsai

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    D'oh, missed the show. Anyhow, my list looks pretty off of the AFI's. :b

    Overlooking the list, I'm somewhat surprised to not see Leaving Las Vegas on the list. Is it too scaringly emotional? What about Lolita, is HH not completely driven by his passion? There's Somewhere in Time, where a lover goes through time and faces his own mortality for a woman. Or The Age of Innocence, where emotions explode under the faces.
     
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    I completely forgot to watch the special last night. DOOHHH!! After reviewing the list, my only major complaint is, where is "Love in the Afternoon"? This is easily one of the most romantic movies that I have ever seen and has one of the most copied scenes in the history of the cinema. Everybody has seen when Hepburn is chasing the train w/ her lover on board. That scene makes me cry every time I see it. I seriously thought that it would be a top 10 movie. Granted I'm a huge Billy Wilder fan, but I find this movie much more romantic than his 3 films that made the list.
     

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