Pretty much a newb here, but am looking for a decent set of in ceiling speakers for a reasonable cost. Use will be mainly music, Just to supply the kitchen and living room. so no video application for them. All were in fairly respectable shops so the amps and install I would have to assume were done reasonably well, at least as well as the room I'll be installing in. Exception being the bose that were in a display stand in a warehouse type environment. So far have heard.. AudioTrac SPG-875S (heard speakercraft makes these?) Nice and cheap and actually found them with a pretty nice full sound. Niles Directed soudfield 6.3 - Nice full sound and better low end it seemed than the above set Speakercraft CRS-1 - Pretty similar to the AudioTrac but a lot more expensive. Definitive Technology UIW/94a - These seemed kinda flat to me, but had the nicest low end of the bunch for sure, along with the biggest pricetag. Bose VI 191 - Distorted as the volume went up, may have been the room, but wasn't impressed in general. Can anyone recommend any of the above? Or better yet make me an alternate suggestion based on personal experience? The room will have tile directly below the speakers changing to carpet after about 5 feet. 9" Ceilings, 6 Large windows within 20", and the area is open and about 700Sq ft. As a Bonus question...anyone know of a passive sub that goes in ceiling? Thanks! I Really appreciate any advice or suggestions.