I've never bought a new car. I'm looking to buy a new truck. I'm not really a person to sit and haggle for hours, I don't have the patience. What I am looking for is what to avoid. Like a situation where I think I'm getting a good deal but I'm really not. And how much can you really ask off the price? I'm looking around 25K-30K on a new truck. How much is reasonable. I've heard that all salesmen know exactly how much they have liberty to take off, but they will do little tricks like go 'talk to their manager', get some coffee, and come back and say they can only do this much. When in reality they could do much more. So if it were you, how much would you ask off a 25-30K truck and if you didn't get it you would leave the lot? I don't like to haggle and I know that I could get giddy about buying it and waste my money.