AB: Please release Deep Red 98/107mn versions!!!

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  1. Christina_DQ

    Christina_DQ Stunt Coordinator

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    I finnaly saw the rest of Deep Red tonight. A 101 version was shown on IFC-i assume it was uncensored since the violence was graphic.Maybe the 98mn runing time was a misprint?
    Either way as long as it's uncensored & up to pace. Thats all that matters.
    I didn't get through the whole 126mn version yet because the additional scenes REALLY hurt the pace of the film. It kept starting to get interesting,then just stop for long periods of time & wander,then start again,then boom,dead in it's tracks & was really hard to get into.
    While i had to sit through a P&S version that was matted to 1.66!!!-looks horrible,but i had to deal with it to see the shorter & far superior version & now can see what all the talk is about.
    This is a really good movie(***1/2).....while the 126mn(**) version is merely ok-a good film is hidden in there somehere dieing to get out.
    So can you PLEASE release a definative collector's edition that includes the 98mn version(uncensored & censored for comparison's sake), 107mn(could be better?) & the 126mn version(hurt by length)??
    This would please fans of the film + be much better for someone just seeing it for the first time. & if it's any indication....the 126mn could turn alot of people off. Not that it's bad,it's just a totally different movie that may tak getting used to. But if all 3 versions were avalible in one set,that woul truly be a dream come true.
    Now the additional footage isn't bad & i liked some of it. But most seemed more interesting veiwing on there own & not in the film itself-so if they were to also be included as a deleted scenes supplement,so that we can see what was added without having to sit through each version & compare for hours. That would be great [​IMG]
    Also please correct the end credits!
    thanks.....i'm not sure if this'll happen. But if you can release the Army of Darkness DC over & over. Why not one more FINAL no holds barred truly complete set of Deep Red??
     
  2. Wes Ray

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    I highly agree regarding the pace of the longer version. I loved the VHS copy of a Japanese Laserdisc I bought off the net years ago. It had all the cut blood and gore, but didn't include all the scenes un-important to the story the result was a much more watchable film.
    Please, Anchor Bay...Deep Red deserves a SE in the near future (and please use some kind of different cover art.)
     
  3. Matthew Chmiel

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    *GASPS* You two can no longer be true Argento fans. [​IMG]
    I have to disagree with both of you. The additional scenes make the film flow much better. Also, I don't think Argento would ever let Anchor Bay release an edited version of Deep Red as the 126 minute cut is his preferred version.
    Also, did IFC show Deep Red in English or Italian? If they showed it in English, maybe that's why the film was in it's 101 minute length as the additional 25 minutes are only available in Italian.
    quote: But if you can release the Army of Darkness DC over & over. Why not one more FINAL no holds barred truly complete set of Deep Red??[/quote]
    Maybe cause Army of Darkness is a popular title and fans have been asking Anchor Bay to release the director's cut in a non-limited edition, and I don't think many people would want to buy an edited version of Deep Red.
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  4. Wes Ray

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    I'm a very big Argento fan, but the Anchor Bay version of Deep Red is just boring.
    The scenes can be kept on the disc, as deleted scenes or whatever, but they seriously hurt the pace of the film. The original cut of Deep Red was a film I placed above Suspiria as my favorite Argento film. The new Anchor Bay/Argento Director's Cut version is a film I'd place behind Suspiria, Tenebre, and [/b]Opera[/b]. It's just not as effective as the shorter film.
    I don't think we were meant to see everything in the movie, despite what Argento wanted. Imagine if we saw a true director's cut of Ghostbusters with all the deleted scenes that Ivan Reitman left out? It would be a very slow film. The same thing goes for Deep Red. Cuts are made for a reason. The shorter Deep Red is a much more effective horror film than the longer one, in my opinion. The longer one, I wouldn't really call a horror film. It's more of a mystery thriller. They're that different.
    Your thoughts, Christina?
     
  5. Christina_DQ

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    I agree Wes!!
    From what i understand.....while the movie may have been released internationaly at 126mn, Argento later cut it down to 107mn & prefered that version best. I would like to check out that version myself & wish they were all avalible,in widescreen of course.
    Cuts are made for a reason & with Deep Red-they were made right. The plot didn't get tossed to the side & forgotten for much ofthe film & it stayed on track,loosing none of it's impact- actually hightening it.
    Meanwhile with all the additions...it stalled & was dull. Sure some parts where interesting & sometimes fun(like Daria's car scenes),but the length of most of them really hurt the film since they went on for a long time, & usualy had nothing to do with the murder mystery!
    The version shown on IFC was in English,but a couple brief bits in Italian without subtitles. I really wish it were in 2.35 though since the movie looks great in widescreen.
    + think some people are so obsesed with owning/seeing the "uncut" version of a movie. That they may not even bother to think/ or notice how it affects the movie itself. Adding previously censored footage is always welcome but adding every single scene shot,that doesn't help out the plot ect usually drags a movie down. If it helps + doesn't ruin the flow of a film,then i'm all for it. but if it's drags it down to complete boredom,then i'd rather watch the original shorter or new director's approved cut.
    Like i said...the additional scenes are interesting,but i think would be better veiwing outside of the film. Also the best parts of the added footage where the ones that were important & added to the plot like David Hemmings conversation with his drunk friend after his interogation. Those were not in the version shown on IFC & i'm sure are in the 107mn version since it adds to the film,rather than subtract like much of the rest which was just filler.
    I'll give the 126mn a shot. It may take getting used to,but i would love for the other versions to be avalible as well & i'm not the only one who thinks that way as well.
    btw-i do like Argento's films for the most part & always want the uncensored director's cut. Like say i've never seen the entire version of Phenomena,since the dvd froze and hr into it. But i would never go rent/see the 81mn version titled Creepers,because the movies better at full length...though i'm sure theres plenty of footage that was cut(as with all films) & would probably hurt the film if included since 110mn is the right length for the film.
    [Edited last by Christina_DQ on October 27, 2001 at 06:37 PM]
     

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