a plea to COLUMBIA TRI STAR: please use full kbps DTS on your SUPERBITS dvds

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  1. David-alexander

    David-alexander Stunt Coordinator

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    We thank you for this great news of a new serie of re-releases featuring the SUPERBIT technology but please, make us happy by confirming that you'll use the FULL 1536/1512 kbps DTS format and not the 1/2 rate version. Also, let's hope new HD telecines are used and not old transfers.
    Thank you. You have a market with us.
    David [​IMG]
    [Edited last by David-alexander on July 26, 2001 at 04:26 PM]
     
  2. Gavin K

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    Also, please make these 2-disc sets when extras are available so that those of us who enjoy extras will also be able to enjoy the superior a/v.
     
  3. Rob Gillespie

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    They've already said that these titles are devoid of extras to maximise audio and video quality.
    To that, I say BRAVO! [​IMG]
    And I very much agree with David on this matter. Please use full-rate DTS, not the compromised half-rate version
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  4. Sean Oneil

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    Yes Yes Yes, Of course ...MUST be at full bit rate even for 6.1, or else why bother. But I also agree that there should be 2 discs. Just leave the first disc devoid of any extras, and load up the second one.
    I would hate to have to get two versions of Final Fantasy or any newer Columbia films 'Spiderman' anyone? in order to get all of the interesting making-of information.
    but PLEASE, do not ever put supplements on the disc with the feature film. Just use that for quality. [​IMG]
    Finally, someone is getting it.
    [Edited last by Sean Oneil on July 26, 2001 at 01:57 PM]
     
  5. Neil Joseph

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    Many people (me included) would re-purchase many titles that I want to have in only the best quality. And please, recognise that those of us who are interested in the best quality are also the same people that watch their movies in widescreen only. There would be absolutely no need to waste any space at all with pan & scan versions. Widescreen only please.
    Thanks in advance,
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    [Edited last by Neil Joseph on July 26, 2001 at 02:54 PM]
     
  6. PhilipG

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    What a clever marketing ploy this is! I can just imagine the conversation the Columbia execs had:
    "Shall we add more features to these titles for the next release?"
    "No, let's remove what few extras we had, and call the discs SUPERBITS"
    A lot of studios produce terrific transfers and extras. I think the SUPERBITS improvements will be negligable (esp. to already reference quality discs like The Fifth Element), but I look forward to being proved wrong.
    To Columbia, I have this to say:
    1. Turn off the edge enhancement on scope films;
    2. If you're going to maximize bitrate, for goodness sakes, don't go half measure on DTS;
    3. Don't remove the extras; add more and put them on a 2nd disc.
     
  7. Brion Lydon

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    I agree that Columbia Tristar should make these new DVDs 2 disc sets. I love my dts at full bitrate but I also love watching extras!
    Brion
     
  8. David-alexander

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    Rob: you're the man and I salute you, from the bottom of my heart! [​IMG]
    cheers
    David
    I though this copy of my post from the software area would fit well too here:
    http://www.dvdenfrancais.com/accueil...ns_studios.asp
    these guys are French and report exclusively on region 1 discs. They are very reliable and carry information directly from studios too.
    They see, for now, that the dts could/would be full rate and that only a dolby stereo 2.0 192kbps will be included too, which takes very few space.
    Why do you guys believe it's impossible to have AIR FOR ONE for instance, transfered from a new HD telecine, with the highest MPEG rate (constant 10MBps ? [​IMG] ) and a full rate DTS and that dolby 2.0 on a single, dual layer dvd-9? ( or a dvd 14 ? )
    There are some region 2 dvds with exceptional image and 2 full rate dts and 2 dolby 5.1 and some supplements on same disc !( dvd 9 dual layer ) so?????????? hello ????????????
    there's a worm in the apple.........
     
  9. Dan Hitchman

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    Please, please, please use full bitrate (1509.75 kilobits/sec), 24 bit DTS 5.1 and real DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 soundtracks.
    NO EDGE ENHANCEMENT, PLEASE!
    Sony, I salute you in this move to push the envelope! Just go all the way while you're at it. [​IMG]
    Dan
    [Edited last by Dan Hitchman on July 26, 2001 at 05:20 PM]
     
  10. Kenny Goldin

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    This is all swell, but I still want a second disc of extras.
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  11. Dan Hitchman

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    Kenny,
    It probably depends on the price they'll want for it. If it's about the same as or more than a normal special edition, then I'll want a second disc for all the supplements that couldn't be fitted on the disc with the movie too (I do want the best audio and video quality first, obviously).
    If they have dual releases on some titles with the current average-type quality special edition for the regular going price, and a stripped down uber high quality SuperBit DTS disc for less, then you have a choice of which is more important to you (supplements or quality). Perhaps Sony believes some will opt to buy both.
    Dan
    [Edited last by Dan Hitchman on July 26, 2001 at 11:24 PM]
     
  12. T r o y

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    Add me to this list of folks who want the full bit rate of DTS on these "SuperBit" DVD's ! Also the best possible Video presentation on them as well.
    I don't care about features and extras and all that crap, just give me the best possible video and audio on this new SuperBit DVD line and I will love you for it.
    Also, Please be thinking of some other great titles that you could do this with such as The Patriot, Vertical Limit,
    and I think Starship Troopers. These would be totally awesome.
    At any rate, Columbia TriStar, YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT ON THIS NEW AND COMING SUPERBIT DVD LINE OF YOURS.
    NOW BRING'EM ON!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Regards
    Troy
    Dacula, GA.
    P.S. Think FullBit Rate !
     

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