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Well, sort of. You're getting closer to capturing everything that was recorded onto a piece of film, but further away from what it looked like in the cinema when it was new. A 35mm release print in projection doesn't have the kind of colour, dynamic range or anywhere near the resolution that a 4K disc does.



Well, sort of! ;)

It all depends. This is just my 2c/opinion. If you think a crappy spooled-onto-one-reel-run-loose-in-the-gate-ensuring-worse-focus-multiplex-meaning-stadium-seating-meaning-worse-focus-again-due-to-angle-not-to-mention-wear-and-tear is what we should aim for as the 'look' of a movie then yeh I guess that could be interpreted as true. And sure I agree you lose 10 percent of the tonal range give or take because of the white screen/lack of true black and so on. The dynamic range though is still around 16 bit. whether analogue or digital. And I'm not talking silver recombination or anything. And we're not even getting into whether you're talking chicken and egg 2k Digital IPs or DCPs and so on. And I've already said above how UHD discs are just getting to film quality - the black and white thing is a perfect example. There's no way even a 10 bit HDR picture is better than black and white film's dynamic range.

And even there the analogy is problematic because do you allow for pre-multiplex depending on the age of the film? Stuff projected properly? Ignoring worldwide releases that look like garbage because the labs churned them out (My God, Godzilla 98...)? Because what you describe as "what it looked like in the cinema when it was new" for the last few decades is arguably nowhere near as good as if you said the same thing about movies for most of their century in the cinema. I'd never describe that lowest common denominator as the proper benchmark. No wonder you think projected film doesn't come near 4k discs! As you word it it seems your ideas are in opposition to pretty much everyone in the industry. And even when the digital cameras are now approaching film in the top end sensitivity (and have arguably surpassed it in the bottom end), when it still mostly all comes back to 2k for post and DI, it's a bit difficult to argue film is inferior.

But I'll argue up and down that an answer print/the one the director sees projected (or others at cast and crew and/or preview screenings) is the look of the film/what it should look like, not the one we generally get because the exhibitor is too cheap to employ enough projectionists, fix the dying lamp, replace the failing speakers and so on. I don't think the generally compromised thing we get from your average/lousy exhibitor is the 'look' of the film. That's sorta the tail wagging the dog to me.

Besides which, you're basically comparing something that finished about 20 years ago (film projection as standard) to something three years ago (UHD discs with HDR)? So, y'know, I'd hope so! I think it's pretty fantastic too. But just can't agree with your statements on film. Cheers.
 

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Well Im pretty dissapointed in this print I just got today from Imprint, it looks like a webrip!

However the print of The Carpetbaggers from them is absolutly amazing!!!!!
 

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It has loads of Opticals which can never look detailed like OCN, A bit like Giant. The non optical sections is where the money is
 
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I received my copy of A PLACE IN THE SUN and it looks fantastic. It was a revelation. It is vastly better than any version I've seen including the "HD" version on iTunes .
I'm a baffled by DVD Beaver's review of the film.......what he saw is not what I saw.
 

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I received my copy of A PLACE IN THE SUN and it looks fantastic. It was a revelation. It is vastly better than any version I've seen including the "HD" version on iTunes .
I'm a baffled by DVD Beaver's review of the film.......what he saw is not what I saw.

I agree, Ken. I think it looks beautiful, and to my eye very similar to Roman Holiday, another Paramount restoration completed at approximately the same time.
 

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I received my copy of A PLACE IN THE SUN and it looks fantastic. It was a revelation. It is vastly better than any version I've seen including the "HD" version on iTunes .
I'm a baffled by DVD Beaver's review of the film.......what he saw is not what I saw.
Not to pick on DVD Beaver, but we see such comments quite often regarding any review from any source. Man, I would like to have people with different opinions about a video presentation seating in one room, watching the movie while discussing their thoughts about the video presentation.
 

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It was suggested to me when I was deciding between buying the new BD or buying digital that the digital copy was probably the older version.

I haven't watched the digital copy I purchased yet. I am glad I was reminded here.

Hopefully, that will be updated shortly to reflect the new transfer.
 

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The Criterion Channel showed the restored version a few months ago The difference was so much better than my iTunes /Vudu HD copy.
 

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So, it is now mid-January of 2021.

Do I pony up for the Imprint BD or will Paramount Presents have something soon; and will it be better?
 
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So, it is now mid-January of 2021.

Do I pony up for the Imprint BD or will Paramount Presents have something soon; and will it be better?

How much do you have to have the film? IIRC, when Roman Holiday was released, Paramount said A Place in the Sun would be coming. The Presents version will be more affordable
 
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As long as there is an inevitable release, I’ll wait and give my support to the Paramount Presents program. Looking forward to it and thanks to all for the updates.
 
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The Imprint is a disaster, softly focused, excessively grainy and very anemic contrast. It's awful. So, I'll wait for the Paramount Presents...version and hope to hell they've sourced from something better than what Imprint was given. Imprint's line-up has been a real hit or miss. When Worlds Collide, Day of the Locust, A Place in the Sun - worse hi-def incarnations I've ever seen. Atrocious. Yes, 'Place' is loaded with dupes that will never produce that 'razor sharp' image one would expect to see. But just look at the scene where Clift sneaks through the bedroom window of Winter's boarding house to explain why he's so late for their rendezvous. Not only horrendously out of focus, but further marred by edge effects and excessive DNR that basically made an already very muddy print master totally smeary - if that's a word. I praise good work when it's done. This isn't even competent.
 

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