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Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Peter Kline, Mar 20, 2002.
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The glacial ice has been receeding for 20 million years.
So I read this story yesterday and I couldn't help but think to myself...uhhh so what? A big chunk of ice broke off from another large chunk of ice. Anyone want to make frozen margarittas?
Two words: global warming.
global warming? based on what? This type of thing happens regularly and has for millions of years.
It has been happening regularly for the millions of years but we havnt been around to notice these wild changes until now. Unfortunately Global Warming is speeding this process up. In the past 100 years since the undustrial revolution the temperatures have gone on more of a up/down then in previous years. Instead of taking Millions of years its taking a whole lot less. Only time will tell what Global Warming is really going to do. Hopefully in the future we will be able to repair what damage we have already done.
I believe there is a story in one of the science journals that states the glaciers are actually thickening. It is really hard to know whom to believe...
Is global warming happening? Most likely. Did we cause it? THAT is the 64 million dollar question. My guess is - no. This is normal climatic variation in action.
Lol, from family guy:
Speed 3: The glacier of doom!
"If this glacier moves more than five inches per year, we're all dead!"
I would think somebody will come up wit h the idea of a trip to the moving glacier so people can board it and go with the flow, so to speak. :b
Perhaps Janna S (our resident HTF Alaskan ) can back me up on this, but when I was at the Matanuska glacier in Alaska, it was mentioned that almost all of the glaciers in Alaska have been receeding (melting faster than it can produce ice) in recent years, whether this is just in a pattern or because of global warming or both, can't say, but you can see the treeline where the ice once went up too on many glaciers.
the global warming thing is most likely happening but hard to prove. At many points in the Earth's history the temps have been much warmer than today and also much colder. During the last ice age the average global temps were about 10 degrees cooler than they normally were so that shows the drastic effect even the slightest change can have. I believe over the last 100 years temps have gone up 2 degrees on average.
I don't buy into the global warming alarmists after redaing several environmental books and studies. For instance,
1. Bjorn Lomborg shows that probable case statistics indicate at most a modest 1-2 degree celsius increase over many, many years.
2. Global warming has positive effects as well. For instance, more people die in cold weather than in warm. The harvest season is longer.
Global warming and cooling is really a misnomer: warming and cooling occurs in various regional areas.
Also, many have tied this phenomena to solar cycles, not emissions.
Send a little global warming my way. Today's the first day of Spring and we just got 8 inches of snow (and still falling).
"I think this whole Ice Age thing is getting kinda old, we should focus on Global Warming now" (Not an exact quote - Can't wait for the DVD!)
Here is an article to give to the doomsayers:
As with many other things, I find it prudent to maintain a healthy skepticism about the cause, severity, and consequences of global temperature changes. Conclusions must be found to explain facts, not vice versa. In the absence of sufficient data, it's not good to have an agenda-driven conclusion.
I too remain skeptical about human causes of 'global warming'. Anyone remember the mid-70s when it was global cooling we were supposed to be causing?
And even if the temperatures are creeping up a few degrees, how severe is it? This planet has been much warmer in the past. It's also been much colder. These cycles are going to occur whether we want or cause them.