Ok I finally got my 3802 today...hooked it up to my axiom m60 mains. Listened to a couple records (yep vinyl), played a cd, hooked up my direct tv to it and watched some tube...etc. Then I decided to actually set the sucker up. I had previously just taken it out of the box, read through the manual etc, hook everything up and pushed a few buttons. Now when I go to set it up I hit the "setup" button on the remote...it theoretically should give me a list of options to tweak/turn on/mess with. The only thing that changes is on the remote led is says AVR SETUP (only for as long as I hold the button) under it shows me a symbol that looks like this 0))) . I push the up/down button, the left right button etc and no menus come up. Basically I don't know how the hell to get in to the setup screen. I've read the manual and it says push the setup button but I don't get any display that looks like anything they have in the book. Thanks for reading...btw the m60's sound pretty damn nice with the 3802. I do have a slight hiss in my tweeters (both sides and only when I turn it up and the music is quiet) but I am attributing that to not having set up the receiver.