Mark Zimmer
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A couple random moments in UNFORGIVEN with visible compression ringing, selected with about three minutes of effort:
00:00:18s-Ringing on tree trunk, left edge of roof of cabin, porch beam
00:08:18s-Ringing on tree trunk, house
00:08m:32s- ringing on all vertical fence posts
00:08m:37s-serious ringing on centermost fence posts
All at 1080i on a Toshiba 65H80 RPTV (1080i native).
On the other hand, all of these scenes have shots before and after where you would expect to see ringing on a standard DVD, and it isn't there.
While home video of course isn't going to be perfect, the promise of HD has been a lot closer to perfection than this, I think. Just as in the early days of DVD, there's a learning curve. Just to be clear, I expect the same learning curve (if not worse) from Blu-Ray. I say worse because Sony/Columbia's SD DVDs have been among the worst offenders for edge enhancement/compression ringing consistently and I fear they may carry those habits over to the HD realm as well. We'll see.
00:00:18s-Ringing on tree trunk, left edge of roof of cabin, porch beam
00:08:18s-Ringing on tree trunk, house
00:08m:32s- ringing on all vertical fence posts
00:08m:37s-serious ringing on centermost fence posts
All at 1080i on a Toshiba 65H80 RPTV (1080i native).
On the other hand, all of these scenes have shots before and after where you would expect to see ringing on a standard DVD, and it isn't there.
While home video of course isn't going to be perfect, the promise of HD has been a lot closer to perfection than this, I think. Just as in the early days of DVD, there's a learning curve. Just to be clear, I expect the same learning curve (if not worse) from Blu-Ray. I say worse because Sony/Columbia's SD DVDs have been among the worst offenders for edge enhancement/compression ringing consistently and I fear they may carry those habits over to the HD realm as well. We'll see.