I'm also seeing what looks like plenty of film grain. There also seems to be a lot more fine detail on fabric, faces, and things of that nature.
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What would be the rationale of a 4k UHD release of a film shot so soft and without focus, that multiplying the visual information by 4, or 24, would not add high frequency detail?I'm also seeing what looks like plenty of film grain. There also seems to be a lot more fine detail on fabric, faces, and things of that nature.
I wish I knew. But sorry, not a clue. I had sync problems, as well as handshake problems with this disc.I have an complicated conundrum for some tech savvy people on the forum.
I have been buying 4K discs for a while, I still don’t want to let go of my panasonic 65” studio master plasma. And bought a oppo 4K player when they announced they would stop manufacturing them. I wanted it also because I play a lot of SACDs and also upgraded to Atmos audio.
So this is where the issue comes in. I’ve never had any issues with watching 4Ks downrezzed to 1080p. This Willy Wonka disc is a first. I was watching the disc and kept thinking the color is off somehow. First I noticed Wonka’s jacket looked more blue than purple and Veruca’s dress was orange!! Mind you orange such as the Lumpas were orange. But it was odd the reds weren’t red at all.
then I thought okay I own a ton of 4Ks and never noticed this.
Quickly threw in Superman the movie… His sheild was beautifully red, Basic Instinct.. that blood was red! Flash Gordon Reds are reds, 2001 that helmet us red and that red lit turning off HAL was red.
so I guess technically I wonder what is different about this 4K than others that downrezzed the transfer would be this way. Perhaps the HDR component is different. If that were the case why are other 4Ks fine.
I know this is a bizarre way that I’m watching the discs but again just curious if anyone with some knowledge about this tech issue?
I have an complicated conundrum for some tech savvy people on the forum.
I have been buying 4K discs for a while, I still don’t want to let go of my panasonic 65” studio master plasma. And bought a oppo 4K player when they announced they would stop manufacturing them. I wanted it also because I play a lot of SACDs and also upgraded to Atmos audio.
So this is where the issue comes in. I’ve never had any issues with watching 4Ks downrezzed to 1080p. This Willy Wonka disc is a first. I was watching the disc and kept thinking the color is off somehow. First I noticed Wonka’s jacket looked more blue than purple and Veruca’s dress was orange!! Mind you orange such as the Lumpas were orange. But it was odd the reds weren’t red at all.
then I thought okay I own a ton of 4Ks and never noticed this.
Quickly threw in Superman the movie… His sheild was beautifully red, Basic Instinct.. that blood was red! Flash Gordon Reds are reds, 2001 that helmet us red and that red lit turning off HAL was red.
so I guess technically I wonder what is different about this 4K than others that downrezzed the transfer would be this way. Perhaps the HDR component is different. If that were the case why are other 4Ks fine.
I know this is a bizarre way that I’m watching the discs but again just curious if anyone with some knowledge about this tech issue?
So this is where the issue comes in. I’ve never had any issues with watching 4Ks downrezzed to 1080p. This Willy Wonka disc is a first. I was watching the disc and kept thinking the color is off somehow. First I noticed Wonka’s jacket looked more blue than purple and Veruca’s dress was orange!! Mind you orange such as the Lumpas were orange. But it was odd the reds weren’t red at all.
Assuming nothing has changed with any of your settings, I can only chalk it up to something in the HDR encoding on the disc that is not tone mapping nicely to 1080p SDR with the Oppo. It could just be something in the metadata, who knows. Some people do encounter this from time to time on certain discs while almost everything else looks fine while tone mapping. I recall one poster on another forum saying every UHD disc looked great tone mapped in his set-up except for Field of Dreams which looked way too dark.
However, I would strongly consider using the Panasonic 420/820 for tone mapping as Oppo never got out of the early stages with their progress before they closed shop. I was actually beta testing for Oppo. The Panasonic is significantly better in this regard.
I'm using the 820 for tone mapping in my FP set-up and so far, I haven't encountered a problem with any disc including this one.
Just got the Willy Wonka 4K. Why in the world are the credits on the blu ray windowboxed ? It's very distracting. Redeemed the digital copy on moviesanywhere. Watching that, the credits AREN'T windowboxed.
Speaking only for myself, I saw no issues or distraction with the framing.
I haven’t watched this yet, but there is a tendency on the internet for people to scream that framing is wrong whenever a new transfer has less information than an older one. Why people assume an ancient Blu-Ray necessarily has more correct framing than a newly minted transfer is beyond me. I have no insider info, but on the stills I’ve seen, the new framing seems much more pleasing thoughtful.Neither did I, Dave. I have read remarks that say it’s still off. Somebody recently said they zoomed in some shots. I really don’t know. It looked damn good to me.
Neither did I, Dave. I have read remarks that say it’s still off. Somebody recently said they zoomed in some shots. I really don’t know. It looked damn good to me.