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Updated 6-27-21

The deeper I dive into this disc, the less I like it, especially for authenticity. Score downgraded.


Mel Stuart's Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory is a film with many fans. Somehow, I'm not one of them, as I was never able to warm up to it. Possibly too homogenized for my taste, which probably has little to do with Quaker Oats.

Warner's new 4k UHD Blu-ray, of the (originally a Paramount release) film photographed by Arthur Ibbetson, who spent many years as a camera operator (The Blue Lagoon, Moby Dick) before taking the helm behind the camera (The Horse's Mouth, Tunes of Glory, The Chalk Garden, Anne of a Thousand Days, The Railway Children, The Bounty) appears nicely produced for 4k, although it may appear to be a bit overly cleaned, it seems that isn't the case. It's extremely fine grained. I sampled on two systems, and it seemed very smooth.

Too smooth.

Color is wonderful and well, candy-like, with all of the young performers scrubbed clean and presumably smelling wonderfully. Possibly I would have preferred a bit more noir version. The film reeks of a G rating, but odd undercurrents.

Audio, presented in DTS-HD MA 5.1 is beautifully reproduced. I don’t believe it includes the original monaural, but that’s SO last century.

For those who collect outer sleeves, this one has a myriad of sparkles.

I finally was able to spend a bit more time with this release, and see that the aspect ratio/matte problems from the old BD have been corrected, creating a bit of confusion in discussion threads, as the correction was universal, but does not exhibit itself as such.

Please see later comments in thread.


Image – 3.5

Audio – 4 (no original monaural)

Pass / Fail – Pass

Plays nicely with projectors - Yes

Recommended


RAH
 
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It’s good that the children have a keen sense of smell. They should enjoy visiting a chocolate factory.
 

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I'm guessing the Paramount logo is M.I.A. They probably also didn't reinstate Mrs. Bucket's interrupting "Wait!" after "I've Got A Golden Ticket" song.
 

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Robert… do you feel as if the grain was scrubbed from the transfer?

Really wish they could have included the original Mono audio as a PCM 2.0 or dts HD ma
 
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I doubt that if one of them had a stuffy nose that that child would be allowed in.
I'm sure Veruca Salt (or her daddy) would find a way IN
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Scrubbed clean? As with The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy? Oh dear. Of the major studios, Warner Bros. UHD releases appear to be rather hit and miss, behind Sony, Universal and Paramount. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was the first Roald Dahl book my mother read to me, as a small boy. I had much difficulty warming to the film when I first saw it on laserdisc - the 25th Anniversary Edition, which came out just at the end of the laserdisc era. But it does improve with subsequent viewings. I've been listening to the audiobook with my son, in anticipation of seeing this during the summer holidays. He isn't as sensitive about DNR, as I am!
 
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Is the 1080p Blu-ray included here any different from the previous version in terms of the transfer?

If not, I'm good with the version I have because I'm not UHD equipped right now. If they improved the Blu-ray transfer, they could get me to double dip and future proof.

Thanks.
 

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I don't get it! RAH gives this 4K disc a grade of 5. The LOTR Trilogy 4K discs gets great reviews across the board and yet people are writing disparaging remarks about Warner's 4K disc releases without even seeing this disc.
 

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I don't get it! RAH gives this 4K disc a grade of 5. The LOTR Trilogy 4K discs gets great reviews across the board and yet people are writing disparaging remarks about Warner's 4K disc releases without even seeing this disc.
I have the Lord Of The Rings trilogy on UHD and when the picture is projected onto a large screen, the lack of film grain and fine detail is very noticeable. I don't care how many "great reviews across the board" people post, I'm quite able to judge what a good filmic transfer is myself. In The Line Of Fire is a recent example of a faithful, filmic transfer. I will purchase Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory to see for myself.
 

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I have the Lord Of The Rings trilogy on UHD and when the picture is projected onto a large screen, the lack of film grain and fine detail is very noticeable. I don't care how many "great reviews across the board" people post, I'm quite able to judge what a good filmic transfer is myself. In The Line Of Fire is a recent example of a faithful, filmic transfer. I will purchase Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory to see for myself.
Everybody has the right to their opinion, no matter how much we disagree with each other. :D
 

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I don't care how many "great reviews across the board" people post, I'm quite able to judge what a good filmic transfer is myself. In The Line Of Fire is a recent example of a faithful, filmic transfer. I will purchase Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory to see for myself.
I don't care what you think is a good filmic transfer as the LOTR trilogy on UHD looks beautiful on my display.
 

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Scrubbed clean? As with The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy? Oh dear. Of the major studios, Warner Bros. UHD releases appear to be rather hit and miss, behind Sony, Universal and Paramount. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was the first Roald Dahl book my mother read to me, as a small boy. I had much difficulty warming to the film when I first saw it on laserdisc - the 25th Anniversary Edition, which came out just at the end of the laserdisc era. But it does improve with subsequent viewings. I've been listening to the audiobook with my son, in anticipation of seeing this during the summer holidays. He isn't as sensitive about DNR, as I am!
Not certain re DNR. Need to take another look.
 

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I have the Lord Of The Rings trilogy on UHD and when the picture is projected onto a large screen, the lack of film grain and fine detail is very noticeable. I don't care how many "great reviews across the board" people post, I'm quite able to judge what a good filmic transfer is myself. In The Line Of Fire is a recent example of a faithful, filmic transfer. I will purchase Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory to see for myself.
The overriding question with some releases is whether the filmmaker is going for a “filmic transfer” or something more modern and updated.
 

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Not certain re DNR. Need to take another look.

I would think when looking over a release to do your initial posts on image quality you would check such issues as grain removal / DNR usage

It can be a deal breaker for buying it if Warner Bros just did another Goonies job. Some shots on that disc are just awful.
 

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Scrubbed clean? As with The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy? Oh dear. Of the major studios, Warner Bros. UHD releases appear to be rather hit and miss, behind Sony, Universal and Paramount. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was the first Roald Dahl book my mother read to me, as a small boy. I had much difficulty warming to the film when I first saw it on laserdisc - the 25th Anniversary Edition, which came out just at the end of the laserdisc era. But it does improve with subsequent viewings. I've been listening to the audiobook with my son, in anticipation of seeing this during the summer holidays. He isn't as sensitive about DNR, as I am!
I seek proof.
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