Professor Echo
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I'm not the biggest Amazon fan anymore, but I do agree that eBay and some other venues are like the wild west by comparison.
That is my feelings exactly. I also have a problem with the fanboy cuts of movies. It's just not right.Doug Bull said:This whole piracy thing makes me sick to my stomach.Doug.
I read that first as "cults" which gave me several amusing mental pictures...ahollis said:That is my feelings exactly. I also have a problem with the fanboy cuts of movies. It's just not right.
Amen! My feeling as well. And what I hate almost as much (in fact maybe even more) are the idiots who defend the practice. "Well, if the greedy studios would just release the titles I want" or "not charge so much then we wouldn't be FORCED to buy bootlegs!" As if they own it more than the rights holders. REALLY infuriates me.Doug Bull said:This whole piracy thing makes me sick to my stomach.
I don't believe that for a moment.These people are thieves. It's the law, and has been since 1998.RAHMark-P said:With the British Hitchcocks, I really don't think it is that PD companies are knowingly infringing on existing copyrights. It's just that for some unknown reason these films are believed to still be in the public domain. Look at It's a Wonderful Life. In the 1980s that film was public domain and was played royalty-free on TV stations all over the country and was distributed on VHS by a myriad of companies. But then Republic managed to reclaim the copyright though the music that was used on the soundtrack, and they made that fact very clear to PD distributors.
Call in the police.Doug Bull said:This is not only happening on-line. DVD shop stalls run by Asians have been appearing in many of the larger size Shopping Malls here in Australia.These are not your small Sunday Market or Car Trunk sales these are plumb in the middle of our top Exclusive and Respected Shopping Malls. Every DVD on display is an Asian bootleg or dupe. They are all $10 each. They are all Classic Titles mainly from the 40s, 50s and 60s.They have lots of Disney (Song of the South anybody?)A number of the titles on display have never had a legit DVD release. ( I suspect a Laserdisc source on some) I've had several noisy and at times close to physical confrontations with these people. (My Wife has had to drag me away)They insult me when I question the legality of their product. ("Go away silly man, you know nothing")I've tried contacting the Mall's management, but they ignore my complaints. ( I guess it's rent money to them) By selling titles from that period only, I guess they think it's safe that anybody will challenge them over copyright and legality. I would never touch their product so I've no idea of the disc quality. This whole piracy thing makes me sick to my stomach. Doug.
So if I'm not using my car, it's ok for someone else to go joyriding in it?Nobody has a right to own a copy of a film just because they want it, the rights holders sitting on things doesn't justify theft.FrancisP said:If the rightholders are not interested in releasing it then they have nothing to complain about. I suspect that is also why they don't do anything about it. Because they have no interest in releasing it so why bother?I have knowingly bought bootlegs if that is the only way to do it. If someone is willing to release it legitimately then I have also bought those as well.
Are you suggesting that Alfred Hitchcock, having the copyrights and ownership of five films revert to him contractually, should have lost his rights because of his desire to vault them for a decade?How might Disney feel if I did a reissue and Blu-ray of Song of the South?Or if someone came into your home and took everything that you had not dealt with in 60 days? Any reason why you should continue to have ownership?FrancisP said:If the rightholders are not interested in releasing it then they have nothing to complain about. I suspect that is also why they don't do anything about it. Because they have no interest in releasing it so why bother? I have knowingly bought bootlegs if that is the only way to do it. If someone is willing to release it legitimately then I have also bought those as well.
FanboyZ said:Lets not forget Echo Bridge who releases films they don't have the rights too...
While they've done quite a bit to clean up their act, only a few years ago they were releasing a significant number of multi-film boxsets along the lines of what Brentwood used to churn out. 50 films on 12 double-sided discs, transfers ripped from VHS etc. I have their 50 film 'Horror' set and I'm pretty sure they don't have the rights to either Bad Taste or Deep Red, both of which are included along with a swathe of titles that tend to show up on similar 'grey-market' releases.Robert Harris said:Please explain.
The police don't care.Robert Harris said:Call in the police.
What if the "fanboy cut" is just for private use? For example, I put together my own hybrid cut of the theatrical and TV edits of David Lynch's DUNE and it's my prefered way to watch the film, but I'm certainly not selling copies of it to anybody.ahollis said:...I also have a problem with the fanboy cuts of movies. It's just not right.
AMEN!Robert Harris said:I don't believe that for a moment.These people are thieves. It's the law, and has been since 1998.RAH
Sorry still not right. Just my opinion.Vincent_P said:What if the "fanboy cut" is just for private use? For example, I put together my own hybrid cut of the theatrical and TV edits of David Lynch's DUNE and it's my prefered way to watch the film, but I'm certainly not selling copies of it to anybody. Vincent
FrancisP said:If the rightholders are not interested in releasing it then they have nothing to complain about.