Blu-ray Review A Few Words About A few words about…™ The Ghost Ship & Bedlam – in Blu-ray (1 Viewer)

[Robert Crawford]

I will hold on to the DVD until I receive confirmation that this has been fixed on the Blu-Ray.

To each his own.

 

[Stephen_J_H]

I don't like it when they remove wires either like they did in MARY POPPINS and WIZARD OF OZ.

For me, it depends. This whole moth thing seems to be automation gone awry. A steady hand and careful review of the before and after, along with necessary corrections, would probably solve the problem. I remember that there were certain issues with an earlier master of Citizen Kane, and there's a big brouhaha over the Frankenstein 4K UHD master with missing fingers and detail, which shows in screencaps but not necessarily in motion. Technology is a wonderful thing, when properly used.

 

[sbjork]

For me, it depends. This whole moth thing seems to be automation gone awry. A steady hand and careful review of the before and after, along with necessary corrections, would probably solve the problem. I remember that there were certain issues with an earlier master of Citizen Kane, and there's a big brouhaha over the Frankenstein 4K UHD master with missing fingers and detail, which shows in screencaps but not necessarily in motion. Technology is a wonderful thing, when properly used.

I just finished the movie, and the shot with the missing moth is unquestionably dupe footage, softer than the surrounding material, and perfectly in character with the dupe footage in the various other opticals like the dissolves. But the moth was a prominent enough element that I'm still struggling with seeing how it would have been accidentally removed by automated tools. There's plenty of fine details all throughout which are intact. It's just that one thing. In fact, in the scene where Russell Wade is in his cabin and the porthole rattles in the wind, there's two very visible wires at the top of the screen which are doing the rattling, and those weren't removed.

It just seems like the moth was removed deliberately. Mistakenly, but deliberately -- they didn't remove the wires because they knew those were present as shot, but maybe someone thought that the moth was damage? Watching the scene, but not listening to the dialogue?

 

[ahollis]

Moth? Not Moth? This is what it was for the last several releases. As said earlier, it was removed in the DVD. I would like to see WAC fix it. But that’s in different world.

Anyone that doesn’t purchase this disc because of the No Moth really is missing out.

 

[Glenn C.]

Moth? Not Moth? This is what it was for the last several releases. As said earlier, it was removed in the DVD. I would like to see WAC fix it. But that’s in different world.

Anyone that doesn’t purchase this disc because of the No Moth really is missing out.

Is there a time stamp for this missing moth?

 

[Rodney]

Moth? Not Moth? This is what it was for the last several releases. As said earlier, it was removed in the DVD. I would like to see WAC fix it. But that’s in different world.

Anyone that doesn’t purchase this disc because of the No Moth really is missing out

Who said it was removed in the DVD? I have the Val Lewton Horror Collection and the moth is definitely there.

 

[Glenn C.]

Who said it was removed in the DVD? I have the Val Lewton Horror Collection and the moth is definitely there.

Once again I ask, what is the time stamp please?

 

[Rodney]

Once again I ask, what is the time stamp please?

It's posted in the pre-order thread:

Pre-Order - Bedlam/the Ghost Ship (Warner Archive Collection) (Blu-ray) Available for Preorder

It's very possible that my memory has not served. :laugh: It happens to me all the time, though in this particular case, there was such a contrast between the two, I remember. btw, because "The Ghost Ship" was mostly set during heavy fog, and the DVD, of course, was standard definition, some...

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At around 4:40 into the film, when the new 3rd Officer Merriam goes to grab the moth and is stopped by Captain Stone, there is no moth!! It has been digitally swept away as dirt & debris

 

[Robert Harris]

It's posted in the pre-order thread:

Pre-Order - Bedlam/the Ghost Ship (Warner Archive Collection) (Blu-ray) Available for Preorder

It's very possible that my memory has not served. :laugh: It happens to me all the time, though in this particular case, there was such a contrast between the two, I remember. btw, because "The Ghost Ship" was mostly set during heavy fog, and the DVD, of course, was standard definition, some...

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At around 4:40 into the film, when the new 3rd Officer Merriam goes to grab the moth and is stopped by Captain Stone, there is no moth!! It has been digitally swept away as dirt & debris

As noted earlier. That moth destroyed several of my beloved sweaters, and I requested it be removed.

 

[ThadK]

Pretty sure it wouldn't be this jokey if Kino or Arrow did this.

 

[Robert Harris]

Pretty sure it wouldn't be this jokey if Kino or Arrow did this.

Absolutely the same. It happens - even on my projects.

And you fix it.

 

[Glenn C.]

It's posted in the pre-order thread:

Pre-Order - Bedlam/the Ghost Ship (Warner Archive Collection) (Blu-ray) Available for Preorder

It's very possible that my memory has not served. :laugh: It happens to me all the time, though in this particular case, there was such a contrast between the two, I remember. btw, because "The Ghost Ship" was mostly set during heavy fog, and the DVD, of course, was standard definition, some...

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At around 4:40 into the film, when the new 3rd Officer Merriam goes to grab the moth and is stopped by Captain Stone, there is no moth!! It has been digitally swept away as dirt & debris

Thanks as I've only watched this film one time and didn't remember that particular scene.

 

[Rodney]

Bullmoose finally shipped me the blu-ray of Bedlam/Ghost ship.

The Ghost Ship DVD:

The Ghost Ship Blu-ray:

 

[Robert Crawford]

Bullmoose finally shipped me the blu-ray of Bedlam/Ghost ship.

The Ghost Ship DVD:
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The Ghost Ship Blu-ray:
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I think we all understand the error. However, I'm still buying this disc.

 

[sbjork]

I think we all understand the error. However, I'm still buying this disc.

As you should. It's a gorgeous disc. I almost felt guilty pointing out the error in my own review of it, because there are people out there who will refuse to buy it just because of that one tiny glitch. Everyone's mileage may vary, but that's a huge mistake in my book.

Enjoy it when you get it!

 

[Robert Crawford]

As you should. It's a gorgeous disc. I almost felt guilty pointing out the error in my own review of it, because there are people out there who will refuse to buy it just because of that one tiny glitch. Everyone's mileage may vary, but that's a huge mistake in my book.

Enjoy it when you get it!

It’s a tiny glitch, but a huge mistake? It’s either one or another in my book.

 

[sbjork]

It’s a tiny glitch, but a huge mistake? It’s either one or another in my book.

A tiny glitch relative to how great the film looks overall -- how great both of them look, for that matter. One tiny element of one shot. No, it shouldn't have happened, and in that sense, it's a big mistake. But it doesn't take away from the beauty of everything else.

So. . . a little of both?

 

[Robert Harris]

For those concerned, the clean-up error has already been corrected. Look for an announcement sometime early next year.

not certain that I’d give up the original however. Look what happened to C3a.

 

[Paul Penna]

not certain that I’d give up the original however. Look what happened to C3a.

"C3a is a 77-amino-acid protein released from the α-chain of C3 by either the classical or alternative pathway C3 convertases." That C3a?

 

[warnerbro]

are they going to give us a replacement disc?