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From what I've heard, Universal/MCA had better knowledge of their asset inventory than most studios. The somewhat apocryphal story of "save the" "Brendan Fraser" version of The Mummy vs the Karloffs et al is that high res data and analogue versions of the earlier films had already been created and the new Mummy films were made using obsolete data storage/creations systems and the versions in that vault fire were more necessary to continue to be able to have the newer versions of The Mummy as future assets.

The music lost in the 2008 vault fire was a completely different issue as MCA/UMG kept on acquiring music companies and apparently were behind preserving and cataloging those assets.
The amount of master recordings lost in that fire is staggering. It’s a huge loss for the world. :(
 

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Klondike Annie would have been one of her best, if not for the censorship problems. It’s disappointing that not all of these films are in better shape, but at least they should be better than what we have.
 

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It's great news about the early films with improved picture quality; however I am disappointed about the condition of Belle Of The Nineties, which features Duke Ellington and Mae's introduction of the song My Old Flame, now a standard.

I also guess Klondike Annie's 8 minutes of censored footage are forever gone as well otherwise it would have been highlighted by Kino.
Really really off topic but this is really interesting - why would 8 minutes of censored footage be gone forever the same with missing footage from let's say Horsefeathers yet no one ever told us where the missing footage from Frankenstein was found would love to hear that story - love hearing on how missing film is recovered. Love the rumors for example that a collector in TX had the actual footage of the deleted scenes from "OZ."
 

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Really really off topic but this is really interesting - why would 8 minutes of censored footage be gone forever the same with missing footage from let's say Horsefeathers yet no one ever told us where the missing footage from Frankenstein was found would love to hear that story - love hearing on how missing film is recovered. Love the rumors for example that a collector in TX had the actual footage of the deleted scenes from "OZ."
The "It's Alive!" picture footage, along with close-ups of the syringes in the Monster's neck in the subjugation sene, was in the 1936 nitrate Lavender Picture Master. The Sound Lavender positive was cut & slugged at the spot with a censor date - this was the line "Henry in the name of God/ In the name of God now I know what it feels like to be God!". The Lake sequence was found in a nitrate print at the BFI, also censored (shots of Maria struggling in the water were eliminated, with cut backs to the Monster and her struggles). The picture portions were restored in 1984. In 2000 the missing audio for the Creation sequence was returned for the DVD from a collector's recording of Sound Discs he had access to in the 1960s.
 

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The "It's Alive!" picture footage, along with close-ups of the syringes in the Monster's neck in the subjugation scene, was in the 1936 nitrate Lavender Picture Master. The Sound Lavender positive was cut & slugged at the spot with a censor date - this was the line "Henry in the name of God/ In the name of God now I know what it feels like to be God!". The Lake sequence was found in a nitrate print at the BFI, also censored (shots of Maria struggling in the water were eliminated, with cut backs to the Monster and her struggles). The picture portions were restored in 1984. In 2000 the missing audio for the Creation sequence was returned for the DVD from a collector's recording of Sound Discs he had access to in the 1960s.
What great history on rescuing film, thank you Mr. H! Now if we could just find Convention City, The Rogue Song, missing Marx Bros and Mae West scenes too.
 

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Well just don't get Greedy ;)!
Would love it if Mr. Harris could do a post every so often telling us such great history. A great story is here in NYC area WPIX actually owns the Laurel and Hardy classic Babes In Toyland having acquired it through a series of misadventures. All PIX has is about 30 plus different prints including the famous Eastman House print from the late 1940's, It was discovered that PIX had the UNCUT version and had shown it for years before they too started airing a print that was edited. The Eastman House print contains the original title by the way. UCLA has the original nitrate camera neg according to Jeff Joseph LOC has the next best source. Trying to get PIX to understand they need to preserve the title before it will not able too is unbelievable - great story is that Quentin Tarantino wanted to show the film at his theater but could not find a suitable print. The ex GM of PIX understood this but they just sold the station again and we are told new GM has too much on his plate right now so it looks like another year will go by without restoration work being done. Will go back now to the subject of this thread thank you for letting me go a bit off topic!
 

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Why not The Patriot?
My mom is a member of the Colonial Williamsburg Society and they sent her a copy of the DVD of Williamsburg—The Story of a Patriot a couple of years ago

They're apparently selling it on their site: link below

Unless you were referring to the Roland Emmerich film which is out on 4K ...
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My mom is a member of the Colonial Williamsburg Society and they sent her a copy of the DVD of Williamsburg—The Story of a Patriot a couple of years ago

They're apparently selling in on their site: link below

Unless you were referring to the Roland Emmerich film which is out on 4K ...
View attachment 97914 ;)!
This great article too https://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-xpm-20040704-2004-07-04-0407040045-story.html
 

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Why not The Patriot?
Several years ago, I bought a friend to Williamsburg for the first time and took him to the orientation center to see "Williamsburg: The Story of a Patriot". I warned him ahead of time that this was a tradition to see, and that while entertaining as a movie, the film itself now looked like crap. To our surprise, the film looked great, so much so that I bought the souvenir DVD at the gift shop. That wascally wabbit Robert A. Harris had struck again.
 

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Several years ago, I bought a friend to Williamsburg for the first time and took him to the orientation center to see "Williamsburg: The Story of a Patriot". I warned him ahead of time that this was a tradition to see, and that while entertaining as a movie, the film itself now looked like crap. To our surprise, the film looked great, so much so that I bought the souvenir DVD at the gift shop. That wascally wabbit Robert A. Harris had struck again.
I love SoaP.
 

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Several years ago, I bought a friend to Williamsburg for the first time and took him to the orientation center to see "Williamsburg: The Story of a Patriot". I warned him ahead of time that this was a tradition to see, and that while entertaining as a movie, the film itself now looked like crap. To our surprise, the film looked great, so much so that I bought the souvenir DVD at the gift shop. That wascally wabbit Robert A. Harris had struck again.
Having lived in Williamsburg in the last 70's/early 80's STORY OF A PATRIOT was something of a tradition. During that time anyone could go see it in its VistaVision/Todd Ao sound glory for free. So it was a cheap date and most of my friends and I knew every line in it. Our favorite "English goods are ever the best." I did see the Robert Harris restoration years ago. Not sure if it is still showing or if indeed it is still in the restored 70mm format. It is a unique film, in some ways now just as much a historical artifact as the time it depicts.
 

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