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Robert Harris

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Warner Archive has done something that I'm quite certain is unintended.

Which means, and not to infuriate Ethel Merman - things just happen.

Lili was shot was shot in March and April of 1952 on location in Culver City, but was released in July of 1953, with a 1952 copyright. Yes, the copyright the on jacket reverse in incorrect.

Springfield Rifle was shot Between April and June of 1952 on both actual location around California and at the studio.

So....

At the same time, they were in very certain terms (although other films had been shot in both processes) the death knoll of one photographic format and the birth of another.

Technicolor had reigned supreme from its 3-strip beginnings c. 1934, for two decades.

Eastman Color, in 1952 still a bit of an experiment, was just at its birth.

Today, when we think of early Eastman Color, it's generally the long-lived, but soon to fade 5248 emulsion that is considered.

This was it in early 1952.

Andre DeToth's Springfield Rifle, a long time WB studio DP shot the film on 5247. And to the delight of readers here, it was processed and printed at WB's home lab - in Warner Color. The system you love to hate.

Here's it's actually quite good. Remember, this was early on and attention was being paid to each step of the process, with Kodak keeping a keen eye on what was occurring. They had a great deal to gain - or lose - on what WB did.

Lili, an M-G-M film was shot on the three-strip process, with nary a problem in sight.

It looks terrific, as recombined by MPI.

Springfield Rifle, a film that I've enjoyed for decades is incredibly good - considering.

Color and densities are fine, with the exception of dupes, which really aren't bad. Recombined from masters, them dupes is fourth generation at best, but the production photography looks quite good.

Two wonderful, and very different films, brought together by fate.

Yes.

These things happen.

Springfield Rifle

Image

Forensic - 7
NSD - 8.5

Audio – 10 (DTS-HD MA 2.0 monaral)

Pass / Fail – Pass

Plays nicely with projectors - Yes

Worth your attention - Yes

Slipcover rating - n/a

Looks like Film - Yup

Highly Recommended



Lili

Image

Forensic - 10
NSD - 10

Audio – 10 (DTS-HD MA 2.0 monaural)

Pass / Fail – Pass

Plays nicely with projectors - Yes

Worth your attention - Yes

Slipcover rating - n/a

Looks like Film - like a 35mm print

Highly Recommended

RAH





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I have both these discs on their way to me. While - obviously - I'll enjoy them for their own merits, I'll also look for the differences between the two color processes.

UPDATE: They've just arrived! I'll watch at least one tonight.
 
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To put things in a bit of historical context:​

All shot on EK 5247. Note print process. WB was the first to use direct positive prints.​

Films​

1951
Drums in the Deep South (USA 1951, William Caeron Menzie, United Artists, Print: Super Cinecolor)1

How to Marry a Millionaire (USA 1951, Jean Negulesco, Twentieth Century-Fox, Print: Technicolor)¹

Hurricane Island (USA 1951, Lew Landers, Columbia Pictures, Print: Super Cinecolor)¹

Sunny Side of the Street (USA 1951, Richard Quine, Columbia Pictures, Print: Super Cinecolor)¹

The Barefoot Mailman (USA 1951, Earl McEvoy, Columbia Pictures, Print: Super Cinecolor)¹

The Magic Carpet (USA 1951, Lew Landers, Columbia Pictures, Print: Super Cinecolor)¹

The Redskin Rode (USA 1951, Lew Landers, Columbia Pictures, Print: Super Cinecolor)¹

The Robe (USA 1951, Henry Koster, Twentieth Century-Fox, Print: Technicolor)¹

The Sword of Monte Cristo (USA 1951, Maurice Geraghty, Twentieth Century-Fox, Print: Super Cinecolor)¹

The Texas Rangers (USA 1951, D. Ross Lederman, Columbia Pictures, Print: Super Cinecolor)¹


1952

Carson City (USA 1952, André De Toth, Warner Bros., Print: Warner Color = Eastman Color)¹

House of Wax (USA 1952, André De Toth, Warner Bros., Print: Warner Color = Eastman Color)¹

She’s Back on Broadway (USA 1952, Gordon Bouglas, Warner Bros., Print: Warner Color = Eastman Color)¹

Springfield Rifle (USA 1952, André De Toth, Warner Bros., Print: Warner Color = Eastman Color)¹

Stop, You’re Killing Me (USA 1952, Roy Del Ruth, Warner Bros., Print: Warner Color = Eastman Color)¹

The Lion and the Horse (USA 1952, Louis King, Warner Bros., Print: Warner Color = Eastman Color)¹

The Miracle of Our Lady of Fatima (USA 1952, John Brahms, Warner Bros., Print: Warner Color = Eastman Color)¹


1953

Beneath the Twelve Mile Reef (USA 1953, Robert D. Webb, Twentieth Century-Fox, Print: Technicolor)¹

Fair Wind to Java (USA 1953, Joseph Kane, Republic Pictures, Print: Trucolor)¹

Lady Wants Mink (USA 1953, William A. Seiter, Republic Pictures)¹

Sangaree (USA 1953, Edward Ludwig, Paramount, Print: Technicolor)¹

1. All per Rod Ryan’s book on the subject.
 

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I watched the "Springfield Rifle" Blu-ray today. It's not a great looking video presentation but it's much better than the prior DVD release. IMO, it's one of those film titles that never looked good on home video. At least now, it's good enough to look presentable on my 77" OLED.
 

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I watched the "Springfield Rifle" Blu-ray today. It's not a great looking video presentation but it's much better than the prior DVD release. IMO, it's one of those film titles that never looked good on home video. At least now, it's good enough to look presentable on my 77" OLED.
Yes, that's also my opinion of the images.
 

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I have an LPP 16 of SPRINGFIELD RIFLE and even that looks great. And, of course, it's got Max's music so it sounds wonderful!! Too bad nothing survived in Max's acetate collection for us to use in our big Steiner Western box of a few years ago.

Glad to hear the Warner Archive disc is a winner. This picture usually gets buried in the shadow of its (Cooper's) predecessor HIGH NOON.
 

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