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For those unaware, Some Like it Hot is a comedy from Billy Wilder, released in 1959.
It's always been considered a very good one, and has some decent talent both on and off screen.
Kino's new 4k, is an interesting comparison to the Criterion Blu-ray, as it's presumably derived from the same 4k master.
I had my concerns going in regarding accentuated grain structure, and grain absolutely does come to the fore. It should be understood that viewing something in 4k derived from the original negative, that does not at least begin with a finely grained source is a bit akin to an unnatural act - a bit like breeding a buffalo with a chicken.
No one was ever supposed to see a negative projected, and that's precisely what is occurring - with no dupes to soften the overall structure.
The end result, to my eye, gives us far more tonality than seen on the Criterion vis a vis the gray scale, but at the same time, exacerbates the grain - worst in dupe sequences.
But sit back about ten feet, and the problem disappears, and the overall affect is extremely pleasing, with rich blacks, very clean whites, and an extremely stable image.
Marilyn Monroe is in the film, and many will recall her from All About Eve.
Bottom line.
Does it give a better quality image than the Criterion Blu-ray?
Yes.
From a decent seating distance.
Image – 5 (Dolby Vision)
Audio – 5
Pass / Fail – Pass
Plays nicely with projectors - Yes
Upgrade from Blu-ray - Yes (but keep the Criterion for the alternate extras)
Makes use of and works well in 4k - 4
RAH
It's always been considered a very good one, and has some decent talent both on and off screen.
Kino's new 4k, is an interesting comparison to the Criterion Blu-ray, as it's presumably derived from the same 4k master.
I had my concerns going in regarding accentuated grain structure, and grain absolutely does come to the fore. It should be understood that viewing something in 4k derived from the original negative, that does not at least begin with a finely grained source is a bit akin to an unnatural act - a bit like breeding a buffalo with a chicken.
No one was ever supposed to see a negative projected, and that's precisely what is occurring - with no dupes to soften the overall structure.
The end result, to my eye, gives us far more tonality than seen on the Criterion vis a vis the gray scale, but at the same time, exacerbates the grain - worst in dupe sequences.
But sit back about ten feet, and the problem disappears, and the overall affect is extremely pleasing, with rich blacks, very clean whites, and an extremely stable image.
Marilyn Monroe is in the film, and many will recall her from All About Eve.
Bottom line.
Does it give a better quality image than the Criterion Blu-ray?
Yes.
From a decent seating distance.
Image – 5 (Dolby Vision)
Audio – 5
Pass / Fail – Pass
Plays nicely with projectors - Yes
Upgrade from Blu-ray - Yes (but keep the Criterion for the alternate extras)
Makes use of and works well in 4k - 4
RAH