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Robert Harris

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Robert Altman's Nashville is one of those modern classics that magnificently stands the test of time - if you can keep up with it, and his use of layered dialogue, which I love.

Previously released by Criterion, Paramount's new image harvest is night and day in comparison to the older scan.

The difference will be seen in overall detail, with an enormous boost to shadow detail, and resultant color, which in many cases previously read as black.

An essential piece of any serious collection, my advice is to pull the bonus disc from the Criterion set, and add it to the new Paramount release packaging. One can then gift the older version to a non-Blu-ray friend.

This is an easy upgrade.

Image – 5

Audio – 5 (5.1 DTS-HD MA)

Pass / Fail – Pass

Upgrade from Criterion Blu-ray - A necessity

Very Highly Recommended

RAH
 

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I'm a huge fan of Nashville, Altman's masterpiece and easily the best American film of the 1970s (sorry The Godfather and Taxi Driver). But for some reason my gut feeling told me to skip the Criterion blu ray but I'll definitely be picking this one up!
 

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Thanks for these words! My Criterion Blu-ray has sync issues during "Dues," which ruins the impact of that moment. (I recall reading that others have experienced this.) Glad to know that this new release offers an overall improvement in presentation.
 

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Thrilled to read this review. I bought it already and have it in hand but haven't had a chance to view this disc. Ever since seeing it in the theatre upon its original release... Cherry Creek Cinema in Denver CO! I'll never forget it. It became an immediate favorite along with Barry Lyndon, Chinatown, Day of the Locust and so many other films. This seemed special. I was in high school then but I knew, so many of these films were breaking ground and I was seeing things I'd never seen before. I hope that RAH will give an opinion on the Paramount release of A PLACE IN THE SUN, another disc I bought sight unseen simply because I cherish the film... standing by...
 

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The Criterion master used was from a 2K scan from a 35mm interpositive made only five years ago. Is the new scan a 4K scan from the OCN?
 

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I'm a huge fan of Nashville, Altman's masterpiece and easily the best American film of the 1970s (sorry The Godfather and Taxi Driver). But for some reason my gut feeling told me to skip the Criterion blu ray but I'll definitely be picking this one up!
I agree that it's one the best films of the 1970's and when it's on sale i will buy it.
 

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Thanks for these words! My Criterion Blu-ray has sync issues during "Dues," which ruins the impact of that moment. (I recall reading that others have experienced this.) Glad to know that this new release offers an overall improvement in presentation.
The entire reel was out of sync. Very annoying. I had to rip the BluRay and fix the audio in order to have a watchable file of it. I look forward to this new edition.
 

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I grabbed the Eureka version after the Criterion went OOP, but haven't got around to watching it yet. Still need to watch that version since I haven't yet seen Nashville but have heard nothing buy good things about it.
 

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A lot of posts on other forums mention how overly saturated the color is, and that some believe the Criterion transfer overall looks better. I still have my Criterion BLU, and still on the fence over this new Paramount transfer.

Different film but the Studio Canal 4K transfer of The Man Who Fell to Earth had blown out images and was a mess. The older Criterion transfer still looked much better. While some may think I’m biased towards Criterion, I give them as much criticism over compression/ encoding and color correction choices.
 

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A lot of posts on other forums mention how overly saturated the color is, and that some believe the Criterion transfer overall looks better. I still have my Criterion BLU, and still on the fence over this new Paramount transfer.

Different film but the Studio Canal 4K transfer of The Man Who Fell to Earth had blown out images and was a mess. The older Criterion transfer still looked much better. While some may think I’m biased towards Criterion, I give them as much criticism over compression/ encoding and color correction choices.

I would wait until there’s screen grabs from this release before deciding which of the two is better. From what I saw from Blu-ray.com’s review of the Criterion release the picture and colors look far better from Eureka’s release where it looks dark and a bit blurry as well.
 

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I would wait until there’s screen grabs from this release before deciding which of the two is better. From what I saw from Blu-ray.com’s review of the Criterion release the picture and colors look far better from Eureka’s release where it looks dark and a bit blurry as well.
Screen grabs are deceiving. Mr. Harris's comment that an upgrade from the Criterion blu is a necessity is good enough for me.
 

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Thanks for these words! My Criterion Blu-ray has sync issues during "Dues," which ruins the impact of that moment. (I recall reading that others have experienced this.) Glad to know that this new release offers an overall improvement in presentation.

The entire reel was out of sync. Very annoying. I had to rip the BluRay and fix the audio in order to have a watchable file of it. I look forward to this new edition.
I just checked my copy of the 2013 Criterion (initial 3-disc release) for the "Dues" scene and post song rambling. I don't see any noticeable sync issues.

Obviously, its difficult to tell during the actual singing (modern actors aren't always the greatest at re-singing to playback).

But it appeared to me to be in sync during her ramblings.
 

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When I watched the Criterion BD years ago the film skyrocketed into my top 20. I have to rewatch to make sure my impression was right. But it's a screening I won't forget, especially "I'm easy" and the ending. Now
give me an UHD, please.
 

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