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waiting to see how the mark2 release will improve on audio visual performance. in the mean while, been checking out @ UK retailer‘s site for price drop.
 

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The MKII release, as I understand it, will only improve upon the audio side of things with the UB9000, as it had something to do with a fire at a factory in which some internal audio components were made for this player.
 

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That would be the AKM plant in Japan that burned down in October of 2020, where the DAC chip (AKM4493) this player uses was manufactured. To make matters worse, the facility that AKM set up to restart fabrication ALSO burned down.
 

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OMG....it's almost like someone has it out for Panasonic....or they're trying to collect some insurance money because they're in deep like Onkyo was....
 

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OMG....it's almost like someone has it out for Panasonic....or they're trying to collect some insurance money because they're in deep like Onkyo was....
...or maybe ....
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...won't beat SONY again ;)!
 

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OMG....it's almost like someone has it out for Panasonic....or they're trying to collect some insurance money because they're in deep like Onkyo was....
AKM is not Panasonic, and the DAC shortage caused by the fire has affected many companies.
 

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AKM is not Panasonic, and the DAC shortage caused by the fire has affected many companies.
“Phone rings, door chimes, in comes companies” - Stephen Sondheim:thumbs-up-smiley:

Oops, sorry, wrong thread.:rolleyes:
 

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I picked this unit up a few weeks ago and have quite enjoyed it. I agree the lack of SACD is bad form (and perhaps a bit troubling) for the cost. In my case it's not an issue since I don't have any interest in SACD (that's still not an excuse, and Panasonic should rightly be taken to task for the exclusion).

Fantastic player, though. I don't have a complaint except that it doesn't remember your place in playback after you eject a disc (which such when you are "playing all" on a season of a show and eject the disc to watch a movie, and then try to carry on with your show later).
 

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Fantastic player, though. I don't have a complaint except that it doesn't remember your place in playback after you eject a disc (which such when you are "playing all" on a season of a show and eject the disc to watch a movie, and then try to carry on with your show later).

AFAIK this capability has to be coded into the disc. It has nothing to do with the player.
 

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AFAIK this capability has to be coded into the disc. It has nothing to do with the player.

I've been re-watching Deep Space Nine and Voyager on DVD. None of the discs for the final DS9 season nor any of the discs for the first Voyager season have resumed correctly after ejection on my UB9000. They resume perfectly after ejection when played on my PS3. I can only point to the player in these circumstances.
 

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I've been re-watching Deep Space Nine and Voyager on DVD. None of the discs for the final DS9 season nor any of the discs for the first Voyager season have resumed correctly after ejection on my UB9000. They resume perfectly after ejection when played on my PS3. I can only point to the player in these circumstances.
Oops. I just assumed you were referring to Blu-ray/4K discs. DVD may be a different beast, but to be honest it's been so long since I've played a DVD in my system I couldn't say for sure.
 

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I picked this unit up a few weeks ago and have quite enjoyed it. I agree the lack of SACD is bad form (and perhaps a bit troubling) for the cost. In my case it's not an issue since I don't have any interest in SACD (that's still not an excuse, and Panasonic should rightly be taken to task for the exclusion).

Fantastic player, though. I don't have a complaint except that it doesn't remember your place in playback after you eject a disc (which such when you are "playing all" on a season of a show and eject the disc to watch a movie, and then try to carry on with your show later).
To make you comfortable on the monies you spent on this player...
1. The video quality output by this player beats what PIONEER and SONY from whatever premium models they produced.
2. There're lesser hiccups in playback in comparison to some may encounter with SONY.

Resume on Reload playback is dependent on the software/firmware i believe... Both my PHILIPS 2k players can remember where i had stopped and eject, up to 3 titles for resume continual play. My PANASONIC 2k players don't. I had not test on SONY yet, as i don't own any of the SONY makes...
 

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To make you comfortable on the monies you spent on this player...
1. The video quality output by this player beats what PIONEER and SONY from whatever premium models they produced...
How can the video quality be better than any other player outputting an identical digital signal, unless it's adding some kind of picture processing, which it shouldn't be doing? Or are you just referring to upscaling?
 
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In the end, if one is heavily into home theater, I’d go for the 9000 over the 820, and have one less glass of Screaming Eagle with your prime rib.

If you’re on a tighter budget, and don’t mind the lesser build quality, the 820 may be your Hitler.
Since I’ve had zero glasses of screaming eagle, I should be able to afford the 9000 but that’s a negatory.

I’ve never heard the Hitler expression. Googling it indicates it refers to a big lie. Don’t think I understand it’s application here. Why am fixated on this? Oh yeah, I’ll never be buying the 9000. :P
 

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How can the video quality be better than any other player outputting an identical digital signal, unless it's adding some kind of picture processing, which it shouldn't be doing? Or are you just referring to upscaling?

I don't know specifically about these cases, but generally speaking, it's certainly possible to have some likely small/nuanced diffs in results since that "identical digital signal" is a lossy encode, not lossless. The generated output necessarily involves reconstruction that adds back "lost" data, and how exactly that's done (via whatever chipset/processing) may contribute toward whatever diffs. But in practice, any visible diffs are likely mostly very small/nuanced (and probably seen as compression artifacts), except on unusually inferior players perhaps.

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To make you comfortable on the monies you spent on this player...
1. The video quality output by this player beats what PIONEER and SONY from whatever premium models they produced.
2. There're lesser hiccups in playback in comparison to some may encounter with SONY.

Resume on Reload playback is dependent on the software/firmware i believe... Both my PHILIPS 2k players can remember where i had stopped and eject, up to 3 titles for resume continual play. My PANASONIC 2k players don't. I had not test on SONY yet, as i don't own any of the SONY makes...

Even so, seems like one could do just as well w/ the Panny 820 instead, if video quality is essentially the only consideration. No real need to move upto the 9000 just for video quality, no?

Me? Since I'm using FP for display, I'm just going to stick w/ the lowly 420 instead and spend my $$$ elsewhere, especially since the 9000 doesn't do SACD...

_Man_
 

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Resume on Reload playback is dependent on the software/firmware i believe... Both my PHILIPS 2k players can remember where i had stopped and eject, up to 3 titles for resume continual play. My PANASONIC 2k players don't. I had not test on SONY yet, as i don't own any of the SONY makes...
With Blu-ray/4K discs it is highly dependent on the title. For example, my UB9000 remembers and resumes on Disney 4K titles (Star Wars and Marvel films, for example) with no problem.
 

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For those of you discussing/pondering the abilities of the Panasonic UHD Blu-ray players to recall playback position, let me share this because I have had a lot of experience and understand how it works, especially in these units...

When viewing a DVD, there is NO way to resume ANY disc playback once a disc has been ejected -- if you press STOP on the remote ONCE, and get that black "Ultra HD Blu-ray" splash screen, you CAN resume playback from THAT point with DVDs...but not if the disc is ejected.

When viewing 1080p or 4K Blu-rays, NO disc will resume playback UNLESS it was authored with that "RESUME: YES/NO" prompt, which will pop up the next time you watch it (Disney/Marvel discs have this, as well as Universal and Sony titles). You also cannot resume playback with Blu-rays if the disc has been stopped once and then play is hit -- this is something that was possible with some Blu-rays from Warner Bros. when I played them on my old Oppo BDP-83 (and the 203 had this feature, as well), but it is not with the Panasonics.

From what I understand, someone on both the AVS and AVForums boards is trying to get Panasonic to introduce the resume playback protocol -- as well as a plethora of other feature shortcomings on these decks -- via a future firmware update (which will hopefully include an end to the ridiculous auto power off function that can't be defeated).
 

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