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Note #2 (1 at bottom)
I’ve now compared the Blu-ray variant with the 4k, and they’re quite different.
While they both seem derived from the same master, which appears to be an older image harvest from an IP, and not the OCN, the Blu-ray disc has a more natural grain structure.
The 4k UHD disc has highly reduced grain, and (at least in bright areas (skies et al), a very awkward digital grain pattern that seems to clump, and at times appears to have mold embedded in the film element.
Is the 4k more highly resolved than the Blu-ray? Possibly, but not by much, and it has very little relationship to film, where the Blu has a more natural appearance.
If I had to purchase one or the other, I’d go for the Blu-ray, and not the 4k.
All of that noted, I’d be interested in seeing examples of the 4k scans before someone at the studio mucked about with them.
One of the nice attributes of 4k, is that enables a transfer from film to digital, while still retaining the original look of film. That comes with the process. Anything else is more work and expense, to create a different final product.
I’ll again make note of the major difference between this release and Italian - both purportedly 4k scans of the OCN - and with totally different final image values, when they should appear quite similar.
Removing exposure and processing from the equation, film is film.
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Michael Winner's 1974 "Death Wish" with Charles Bronson in the lead is one of the quintessential '70s revenge dramas, and it holds up nicely.
The new 4k release from Kino via Paramount carries all the proper 4k monikers including Dolby Vision, but I actually had to confirm that I was viewing 4k, as viewing it in 4k and in projection, there is not a single hint that it's 4k.
The master appears older - certainly not new, and seems to be harvested from an IP, which is a waste unless somehow the studio has lost the original negative. There are bits of dirt and detritus, both negative and positive seen in the scan.
Color and densities look fine, there's simply nothing here above 2k (or Blu-ray) quality.
For those who may be unaware, you'll find then 21 year-old Jeff Goldblum in his first appearance as Freak #1.
Image - 4 (Dolby Vision)
Audio – 5 (DTS-HD MA)
Pass / Fail – Pass
Plays nicely with projectors - Yes
Makes use of and works well in 4k - 2
Upgrade from Blu-ray - No
RAH
NOTE: This has been publicized as a new 4k scan of the camera negative.
Not to my eyes. I’m wondering if the wrong master was delivered.
Thank you for supporting HTF when you preorder using the link below. As an Amazon Associate, HTF earns from qualifying purchases. If you are using an adblocker you will not see link.
I’ve now compared the Blu-ray variant with the 4k, and they’re quite different.
While they both seem derived from the same master, which appears to be an older image harvest from an IP, and not the OCN, the Blu-ray disc has a more natural grain structure.
The 4k UHD disc has highly reduced grain, and (at least in bright areas (skies et al), a very awkward digital grain pattern that seems to clump, and at times appears to have mold embedded in the film element.
Is the 4k more highly resolved than the Blu-ray? Possibly, but not by much, and it has very little relationship to film, where the Blu has a more natural appearance.
If I had to purchase one or the other, I’d go for the Blu-ray, and not the 4k.
All of that noted, I’d be interested in seeing examples of the 4k scans before someone at the studio mucked about with them.
One of the nice attributes of 4k, is that enables a transfer from film to digital, while still retaining the original look of film. That comes with the process. Anything else is more work and expense, to create a different final product.
I’ll again make note of the major difference between this release and Italian - both purportedly 4k scans of the OCN - and with totally different final image values, when they should appear quite similar.
Removing exposure and processing from the equation, film is film.
______________________
Michael Winner's 1974 "Death Wish" with Charles Bronson in the lead is one of the quintessential '70s revenge dramas, and it holds up nicely.
The new 4k release from Kino via Paramount carries all the proper 4k monikers including Dolby Vision, but I actually had to confirm that I was viewing 4k, as viewing it in 4k and in projection, there is not a single hint that it's 4k.
The master appears older - certainly not new, and seems to be harvested from an IP, which is a waste unless somehow the studio has lost the original negative. There are bits of dirt and detritus, both negative and positive seen in the scan.
Color and densities look fine, there's simply nothing here above 2k (or Blu-ray) quality.
For those who may be unaware, you'll find then 21 year-old Jeff Goldblum in his first appearance as Freak #1.
Image - 4 (Dolby Vision)
Audio – 5 (DTS-HD MA)
Pass / Fail – Pass
Plays nicely with projectors - Yes
Makes use of and works well in 4k - 2
Upgrade from Blu-ray - No
RAH
NOTE: This has been publicized as a new 4k scan of the camera negative.
Not to my eyes. I’m wondering if the wrong master was delivered.
Thank you for supporting HTF when you preorder using the link below. As an Amazon Associate, HTF earns from qualifying purchases. If you are using an adblocker you will not see link.
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