UHD Review A Few Words About A few words about...™ CITIZEN KANE -- in 4k UHD (1 Viewer)

[Steve Rothaus]

My 4K Kane disc froze at about the 45 minute mark. I pulled in out of my Oppo 203, wiped it carefully with a soft cloth, re-inserted it, and it played perfectly. Love this set.
Supplements are superb. Still have to watch some I haven’t gotten to yet.

Mine, too. Froze at the 50-minute mark. I removed the disc from my Sony UBP-X700, carefully wiped it and the disc played fine.

 

[JoshZ]

I placed an order with bn.com on Friday and got a shipping confirmation the next day. The tracking number currently says "On Its Way" but has not updated with a delivery date yet.

My set just arrived, 5 days after placing the order. I have not taken the shrinkwrap off or tested anything yet.

 

[David Norman]

Walked into store, bought all my Criterion directly and they let me purchase CK 4K for online delivery no charge due to the recall -- already delivered much to my surprise and perfect condition so I don't even have to worry about an in-store exchange.
Walked out with all the others in hand -- no shipping costs or worry since neitehr Amazon or BN can pack much safely any more. I had banking business next door so an extra 1 mile driving didn't seem to waste much gas
3 of the 4 4K Digipacks and esp the larger sets handpicked for condition

Had Discounted BN Cards between AMEX Offers (not CC rewards since that's extra in addition) and the BN Holiday GC Bonus which gave me almost another 30% off directly without coupons or memberships. The longer BN keeps doing the sales, the longer Amazon has someone to check.
Folks got to do what's best for themselves, but it's a wonderful thing when it works both long and short term

 

[ManW_TheUncool]

So the lesson here is to order right away, if the title is important to you. And it's a little cheaper and faster, as I've just discovered to my surprise, if you order from Amazon rather than B/N. That's pretty much that.

I thought the lesson was buy when there are Criterion sales.

B&N and Amazon were both $29.99, so Amazon is no cheaper. Yes, shipping is included with Prime, but...you have to have Prime. And B&N ships free over $35 anyway.

Agreed. And if one's so inclined, one could get free shipping w/out that minimum requirement by joining B&N's own version of Prime too -- membership is just $25/year IIRC and provides some additional discounts on most items (at least in-store) albeit no longer on top of the Criterion sale, which is partly why I let mine lapse.

Anyway, if people are actually trying to get the best deal, might also need to check other less well-known options like Target's oft recurring B2G1 sales, which Amazon also tried to match to some extent (seemingly sometimes via their coupon clippings). That's actually what I did for this round of sales instead... though I didn't actually get the Kane 4K set -- I'm satisfied enough w/ my old Warner BD set at least for now...

Also, if really going for best deal, I'd probably recommend against paying regularly for Prime anyway. Paying (regularly) for Prime is about paying for the luxury of extra convenience (and I suppose the IMHO not-that-attractive perk of their Prime streaming services), not so much the best deal (most times)...

Walked into store, bought all my Criterion directly and they let me purchase CK 4K for online delivery no charge due to the recall -- already delivered much to my surprise and perfect condition so I don't even have to worry about an in-store exchange.
Walked out with all the others in hand -- no shipping costs or worry since neitehr Amazon or BN can pack much safely any more. I had banking business next door so an extra 1 mile driving didn't seem to waste much gas
3 of the 4 4K Digipacks and esp the larger sets handpicked for condition

Had Discounted BN Cards between AMEX Offers (not CC rewards since that's extra in addition) and the BN Holiday GC Bonus which gave me almost another 30% off directly without coupons or memberships. The longer BN keeps doing the sales, the longer Amazon has someone to check.
Folks got to do what's best for themselves, but it's a wonderful thing when it works both long and short term

IF I didn't have the Target option (which also provided other bonuses), I'd probably mostly just buy from B&N instead of Amazon since I do maintain a stash of Discover Card cashback rewards that are good for discounted B&N GCs... and it's good to help maintain some competition me thinks...

_Man_

 

[dpippel]

Yep, so the moral of this debate is the same as it's always been - do what works best for you.

 

[Luke Pacholski]

My replacement disc and discount code arrived today. I only quickly checked but the disc does seem to be fixed.

 

[RATLSNAKE]

Warner Bros. are releasing this in Europe in December- I wonder if the transfer will be identical to the Criterion 4K?

I've read this entire thread and not seen an answer to this. I have to assume Criterion's 4K is their own, and would not be on-sold for Warner to then make use of, but would be great to know.

 

[Robert Crawford]

I've read this entire thread and not seen an answer to this. I have to assume Criterion's 4K is their own, and would not be on-sold for Warner to then make use of, but would be great to know.

I don’t believe this 4K scan is singularly owned by Criterion. The streams on the different streaming platforms can be purchased in 4K/Dolby Vision. My iTunes HD digital upgraded to 4K/DV free of charge. I purchased that Warner digital from iTunes back in 2017.

 

[KeithDA]

I've read this entire thread and not seen an answer to this. I have to assume Criterion's 4K is their own, and would not be on-sold for Warner to then make use of, but would be great to know.

It was released as a standard edition in the UK last month and I suspect is not the same transfer as the Criterion one, for example, ours only has HDR10 (so no Dolby Vision).
Our 'special edition 80th Anniversary', (also minus Dolby) has the same booklets/postcards as the 75th anniversary Blu and it was released in December. It also did not get all those interesting extra Criterion documentaries.....
As you can guess, I'm region envious not region free!

 

[bugsy-pal]

I have both the Criterion UHD and the Warners 4K disc (Australian). I've looked at both but not done a side-by-side comparison. My impression is that they are the same transfer - or very close to each other.

 

[KeithDA]

My impression is that they are the same transfer

That sounds promising - but the lack of Dolby Vision on the WB issue...?

 

[Stephen_J_H]

That sounds promising - but the lack of Dolby Vision on the WB issue...?

Dolby Vision is just a container for HDR treatment. Granted, it's more efficient and can do real time adjustments, but on a film like Kane, does that really matter?

 

[KeithDA]

Dolby Vision is just a container for HDR treatment. Granted, it's more efficient and can do real time adjustments, but on a film like Kane, does that really matter?

If DV is better, then surely it would have been good to have it for what is considered one of the greatest films of all time..? Criterion obviously thought so!

 

[Stephen_J_H]

If DV is better, then surely it would have been good to have it for what is considered one of the greatest films of all time..? Criterion obviously thought so!

Comes down to $$$$$. Warner may not have wanted to pay licencing fees for DV for the UK release.

 

[Worth]

If DV is better, then surely it would have been good to have it for what is considered one of the greatest films of all time..? Criterion obviously thought so!

I think it depends on your display. On mine, Dolby Vision looks too dark and HDR10 looks better.

 

[Robert Crawford]

I think it depends on your display. On mine, Dolby Vision looks too dark and HDR10 looks better.

What display is that?

 

[Worth]

What display is that?

Sony A8H OLED.

 

[AnthonyClarke]

I still find it astonishing that 'Citizen Kane' was given a UHD release ahead of the wonderful 'The Third Man'. When it that undisputed masterpiece going to be released in UHD?
?

 

[Patrick McCart]

I still find it astonishing that 'Citizen Kane' was given a UHD release ahead of the wonderful 'The Third Man'. When it that undisputed masterpiece going to be released in UHD?
?

There's a 4K restoration that's been released on Blu-ray outside the US, but it's a StudioCanal property and Lionsgate currently has the home video rights in North America.

 

[Dave Moritz]

If DV is better, then surely it would have been good to have it for what is considered one of the greatest films of all time..? Criterion obviously thought so!

Not that DV is bad because it has improved so much over the years. But so far in most cases to my knowledge disc is still better than DV. Disc still also offers higher data rates over DV unless you have a Kaleidescape Media Player / Server and get your digital downloads from Kaleidescape. Then the data rates can top blu-ray discs. Just depends if you want as I am sure the DV version is a good experience as well. I also have a number of movies on DV that I can stream along with my disc library. I am looking forward to getting Citizen Kane but I want the disc in my library to watch when ever and not have to worry about if I have internet or not. Anyone view this title on a Sony A9F OLED?