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Here's a pretty good explanation and visual about tone mapping.

https://www.avforums.com/article/what-is-4k-hdr-tone-mapping.13883
Thanks, Dave. Read the link, but I would think that the color gamut on my new Samsung QLED would be accurate. The settings on the picture were done by a professional installer. As I said in my initial post, the picture is sharp ,but dark, darker than the Blu-Ray. I just purchased Dunkirk, so I'm going to look at that picture this morning. Thanks again for your reply.
 

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I think we can simply agree, the Oscars have little to do with 'best' in show and a lot more to do with what political agenda Hollywood du jour happens to be pushing. My tastes vary widely from what's been nominated and what has won, as is evident by the list below. Just saying... (and again, to each his own).

1990
(63rd)
Dances with Wolves Jim Wilson and Kevin Costner
I would have picked
Goodfellas Irwin Winkler
1991
(64th)
The Silence of the Lambs Edward Saxon, Kenneth Utt and Ron Bozman
I would have picked
JFK
A. Kitman Ho and Oliver Stone
1992
(65th)
Unforgiven Clint Eastwood
I would have picked
Howards End
Ismail Merchant
1993
(66th)
Schindler's List Steven Spielberg, Gerald R. Molen and Branko Lustig
I would have picked...
The Remains of the Day
Mike Nichols, John Calley and Ismail Merchant
1994
(67th)
Forrest Gump Wendy Finerman, Steve Tisch and Steve Starkey
I would have picked...
The Shawshank Redemption
Niki Marvin
1995
(68th)
Braveheart Mel Gibson, Alan Ladd Jr. and Bruce Davey
I would have picked either Apollo 13 or
Sense and Sensibility
Lindsay Doran
1996
(69th)
The English Patient Saul Zaentz
agreed
1997
(70th)
Titanic James Cameron and Jon Landau
I would have picked...
L.A. Confidential
Curtis Hanson, Arnon Milchan and Michael Nathanson
1998
(71st)
Shakespeare in Love David Parfitt, Donna Gigliotti, Harvey Weinstein, Edward Zwick and Marc Norman
I would have picked
Life Is Beautiful
Elda Ferri and Gianluigi Braschi
1999
(72nd)
American Beauty Bruce Cohen and Dan Jinks
I would have picked...
The Cider House Rules Richard N. Gladstein

(73rd)
Gladiator Douglas Wick, David Franzoni and Branko Lustig
agreed
2001
(74th)
A Beautiful Mind Brian Grazer and Ron Howard
I would have given it to either
Gosford Park
Robert Altman, Bob Balaban and David Levy
or
Moulin Rouge!
Martin Brown, Baz Luhrmann and Fred Baron
2002
(75th)
Chicago Martin Richards
I would have given it to
The Pianist
Roman Polanski, Robert Benmussa and Alain Sarde
2003
(76th)
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King Barrie M. Osborne, Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh
agreed
2004
(77th)
Million Dollar Baby Clint Eastwood, Albert S. Ruddy and Tom Rosenberg
agreed
2005
(78th)
Crash Paul Haggis and Cathy Schulman
I would have given it to
Good Night, and Good Luck
Grant Heslov
2006
(79th)
The Departed Graham King
I would have given it to
Little Miss Sunshine
David T. Friendly, Peter Saraf and Marc Turtletaub
2007
(80th)
No Country for Old Men Scott Rudin, Joel Coen and Ethan Coen
agreed
2008
(81st)
Slumdog Millionaire Christian Colson
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button Kathleen Kennedy, Frank Marshall and Ceán Chaffin
Frost/Nixon Ron Howard, Brian Grazer and Eric Fellner
Milk Bruce Cohen and Dan Jinks
The Reader Anthony Minghella, Sydney Pollack, Donna Gigliotti and Redmond Morris
I would have given it to none of the above. Didn't like any of the nominees this year!
2009
(82nd)
The Hurt Locker Kathryn Bigelow, Mark Boal, Nicolas Chartier and Greg Shapiro
I would have given it to
The Blind Side
Gil Netter, Andrew A. Kosove and Broderick Johnson

2010
(83rd)
The King's Speech Iain Canning, Emile Sherman and Gareth Unwin
agreed
2011
(84th)
The Artist Thomas Langmann
agreed - or...
War Horse
Steven Spielberg and Kathleen Kennedy
2012
(85th)
Argo Grant Heslov, Ben Affleck and George Clooney
It should have been...
Lincoln
Steven Spielberg and Kathleen Kennedy
Silver Linings Playbook Donna Gigliotti, Bruce Cohen and Jonathan Gordon

2013
(86th)
12 Years a Slave Brad Pitt, Dede Gardner, Jeremy Kleiner, Steve McQueen and Anthony Katagas
It should have been either
American Hustle
Charles Roven, Richard Suckle, Megan Ellison and Jonathan Gordon
or
Dallas Buyers Club
Robbie Brenner and Rachel Winter

2014
(87th)
Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) Alejandro G. Iñárritu, John Lesher and James W. Skotchdopole
Should have been
American Sniper
Clint Eastwood, Andrew Lazar, Robert Lorenz, Bradley Cooper and Peter Morgan
or
Boyhood
Richard Linklater and Cathleen Sutherland
or
The Grand Budapest Hotel
Wes Anderson, Scott Rudin, Steven M. Rales and Jeremy Dawson
or
The Imitation Game
Nora Grossman, Ido Ostrowsky and Teddy Schwarzman

2015
(88th)
Spotlight Blye Pagon Faust, Steve Golin, Nicole Rocklin and Michael Sugar
agreed

2016
(89th)
Moonlight Adele Romanski, Dede Gardner and Jeremy Kleiner
I would have given it to
Hidden Figures
Donna Gigliotti, Peter Chernin, Jenno Topping, Pharrell Williams and Theodore Melfi
Thank God La La Land didn't win!

2017
(90th)
The Shape of Water Guillermo del Toro and J. Miles Dale
I would have given it to
Lady Bird
Scott Rudin, Eli Bush and Evelyn O'Neill
or
The Post
Amy Pascal, Steven Spielberg and Kristie Macosko Krieger
or
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
 

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Thanks, Dave. Read the link, but I would think that the color gamut on my new Samsung QLED would be accurate. The settings on the picture were done by a professional installer. As I said in my initial post, the picture is sharp ,but dark, darker than the Blu-Ray. I just purchased Dunkirk, so I'm going to look at that picture this morning. Thanks again for your reply.

Brightness output is a crucial part of proper tone mapping - not just accurate gamut. Usually titles which look too dark can be because there is inadequate brightness for better tone mapping. But brightness also affects overall color volume.

How many nits is your display?
 

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Brightness output is a crucial part of proper tone mapping - not just accurate gamut. Usually titles which look too dark can be because there is inadequate brightness for better tone mapping. But brightness also affects overall color volume.

How many nits is your display?
Don't have any idea. But I changed the picture setting to "Dynamic" and that has seemed to solve the problem. Since I now have this new 4k tv and 4k Blu- Ray player, I would love to know if Mr. Harris could submit a list of his top 6 or 7 UHD discs to help me choose what films to purchase.
 

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Amazon has reduced pricing of Gladiator to $19.99 for those interested.
They must be price matching Best Buy. On a whim, I checked BB and they had it for the same price. I have a $5 e-gift card for there from a previous purchase, so I ordered it for in-store pickup for $14.99 plus tax. I should be able to pick it up on our way to dinner this evening.
 

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Best Buy's flaky online inventory system strikes again! About an hour after placing my order for Gladiator with in-store pickup, I get an email stating the item is not available for pick-up at the location I selected (even though their website stated it was an hour earlier). Fortunately, due to BB's screw-up, one of the options listed for changing the order was free shipping. So, they saved me a trip to the store, but I will not have the film until the end of the week. Not a big deal -- I've waited this long for a price drop, so a few more days doesn't really matter.
 

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I changed the picture setting to "Dynamic" and that has seemed to solve the problem.

This picture mode will make the picture blown out, give it blue whites, make the colours more like animation, and give it exceedingly edgy. Put it in movie mode and set contrast to 90. If you have an 8 or 9-series Samsung you should have at least 1000 nit capability, far beyond likely the brightest white used in Braveheart.

This disc looks great. I'm in love with the film again. Do I have a film projector behind me? Convincing...
 

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Well both the review thread and this one are cluttered with everything but talk about the actual 4K disc of Gladiator.

I just finished this and it was like I watched the movie for the first time.
The DTSX track was incredible.
EVery sound was, was just there.
I heard things ve never noticed before.
There is a slight tinkle sound coming from the left that I never heard.
The crowd chants during the battles. Heard them before but not this way.

I watched the extended version.

The movie is great and I have to put it in my top 25 list now.
It ha sheen on my top 100 somewhere, not sure where but it’s now top 25.

I don’t remember what the other movies that came out that year are and what the other noms are but I don’t care either.

This set contains everything from the special edition set of the dvd as far as I can tell.
Anyway this 4K was amazing and if you lie the movie or haven’t watched it in a while pick this up it will like seeing it for the first time.


Edited to include that I see in the review it’s said that mattes are more visible due to the higher resolution of the 4K but I didn’t see any of that. I didn’t see any poor cgi. It looked great to me.

I did see some motion blur during a few action scenes like some of the tigers jumping around but from what I remember that was always there.
 
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http://arthurlyonsfilmnoir.ning.com/page/2926187:Page:2939


Arthur Lyons Film Noir Festival Palm Springs

7:30 pm: World Premiere of new 4K digital restoration! KING CREOLE (1958) Paramount, 115 min. D: Michael Curtiz. Elvis’s third starring role remains his best work on screen. He plays 19-year old Danny Fisher who is struggling to finish high school while living in a French Quarter flat with an unemployed father (Dean Jagger) and sister (Jan Shepard). The rebellious teen-ager navigates a veritable tightrope between a legitimate singing career and a wholesome girl friend (Dolores Hart) vs. a criminal life while romancing the mistress (Carolyn Jones) of a vicious gangster (Walter Matthau). Produced by Hal Wallis and deftly helmed by Curtiz on location in New Orleans, this musical crime drama established Elvis as a legitimate actor with a stellar supporting cast including Paul Stewart and Vic Morrow. Scheduled Special Guest: actress Jan Shepard

Absolutely fantastic news. King Creole, 4K.
I wonder if they found the missing camera negative to restore from?
Maybe the deleted songs, "Hard Headed Woman" & "Danny"?

Does anyone have any information regarding this restoration?
What does this have to do with the topic of this thread??
 

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My post was an update to posts #7,11,12,14 of this thread. I didn't do the quote correctly when I posted this message. but a better place would be in the Elvis Presley BluRay thread or on its' own.
 

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