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[Lord Dalek]

Does this mean you think there was a better unnominated 1995 film?

Nah Apollo 13 should have won that Oscar. I can only imagine it didnt happen because Babe and Sense and Sensibility split the vote leading to the dark horse upset.

 

[Colin Jacobson]

Come to think of it....No.

"Braveheart" better than "Se7en" and "Unusual Suspects"?

 

[Colin Jacobson]

Nah Apollo 13 should have won that Oscar. I can only imagine it didnt happen because Babe and Sense and Sensibility split the vote leading to the dark horse upset.

I was surprised "Braveheart" even got nominated, honestly. It didn't get great reviews and it wasn't a big box office draw.

Plus, it was a May release, so it didn't have the usual kind of "late year" momentum that attracts Oscar voters. Usually if a movie from the first half of a year gets a nom, it's because it was really noteworthy. "Braveheart" just kinda came and went without a lot of impact.

Going into the Oscars, I figured "A13" was the one to beat. Since I was so surprised that "Braveheart" got nominated, I sure didn't expect it to win!

And I still don't get it. "Braveheart" is a moderately enjoyable film but not one without clear flaws. The battle scenes are good but a lot of the rest of it is mawkish and clunky.

Doesn't help Gibson was about 50 years too old to play Wallace, too!

 

[Tino]

"Braveheart" better than "Se7en" and "Unusual Suspects"?

Absolutely 100%

I like Seven. Unusual Suspects I like more.

Neither I thought are as amazing as Braveheart.

 

[Colin Jacobson]

Absolutely 100%

I like Seven. Unusual Suspects I like more.

Neither I thought are as amazing as Braveheart.

To each his own, of course, but "Se7en" and "Suspects" were new. creative and influential. "Braveheart" doesn't belong in their class...

 

[Tino]

To each his own, of course, but "Se7en" and "Suspects" were new. creative and influential. "Braveheart" doesn't belong in their class...

To you maybe. I disagree.

 

[Jason_V]

I have both of these on preorder, but I don't know that I *need* them. Neither are personal favorite movies and I don't know if I can justify the current Amazon price point of almost $26. Especially with so many other heavy hitters coming in the next month or two.

 

[Tino]

And Braveheart is at 77% on RT. With plenty of great reviews.

 

[Tino]

Apollo 13 was probably my #2 that year. Babe # 3.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Nah Apollo 13 should have won that Oscar. I can only imagine it didnt happen because Babe and Sense and Sensibility split the vote leading to the dark horse upset.

I agree and years later I still find that Apollo 13 the superior film.

 

[Tino]

I loved Apollo 13 too but knowing the ending in advance sort of diminished the suspense of the entire film.

Braveheart just flat out blew me away.

In today’s dollars Braveheart would have made $125 million domestic and $350 million worldwide. Pretty good.

 

[Lord Dalek]

The moral here is the Oscars couldn't hit (American Beauty aside) the broad side of a barn in between Schindler's List and Return of the King. With 1995, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2001, and 2002 being the most eggregious errors

 

[Colin Jacobson]

In today’s dollars Braveheart would have made $125 million domestic and $350 million worldwide. Pretty good.

WW it made $213m and it cost $72m. It probably turned a minor profit with WW grosses but not much of one.

It seemed like a commercial disappointment for a movie with a prime Memorial Day-ish release date and an "A"-level star involved.

It was 18th for 1995 in the US, sandwiched between "Father of the Bride 2" and "Get Shorty".

"Se7en" cost $33m and made $327m WW. No small feat for such a relentlessly dark movie...

 

[Tino]

We can debate the merits of the Oscars endlessly but in the end it’s just opinions of Academy members at the time.

There is no right or wrong. More members voted for the winners. Simple.

 

[Tino]

WW it made $213m and it cost $72m. It probably turned a minor profit with WW grosses but not much of one.

It seemed like a commercial disappointment for a movie with a prime Memorial Day-ish release date and an "A"-level star involved.

It was 18th for 1995 in the US, sandwiched between "Father of the Bride 2" and "Get Shorty".

"Se7en" cost $33m and made $327m WW. No small feat for such a relentlessly dark movie...

Which of course has nothing to do with the quality of the film. I posted those numbers merely to illustrate in today’s dollars it would be viewed more favorably as a Best Picture Winner.

 

[Douglas_H]

I saw all of the above 1995 films mentioned here, and Heat was the best. Usual Suspects was excellent as well but it's watchability is good for maybe 2 times unless you want to try and decipher Fenster's dialog.

Casino wasn't nominated either. What a joke

 

[Lord Dalek]

They make mistakes people. They really do.

 

[Colin Jacobson]

Which of course has nothing to do with the quality of the film. I posted those numbers merely to illustrate in today’s dollars it would be viewed more favorably as a Best Picture Winner.

What does its gross have to do with how it's viewed as a BP winner? Most BP winners don't make a lot of money...

 

[Colin Jacobson]

I saw all of the above 1995 films mentioned here, and Heat was the best. Usual Suspects was excellent as well but it's watchability is good for maybe 2 times unless you want to try and decipher Fenster's dialog.

Casino wasn't nominated either. What a joke

"Casino" was nominated in 1990 under its original title: "GoodFellas"...

 

[Tino]

What does its gross have to do with how it's viewed as a BP winner? Most BP winners don't make a lot of money...

Like you said. For that film at that time with the talent involved it was expected to do more. My point is it’s boxoffice was not as bad as was thought in 1995.