bgart13
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Is it possible this "anomaly" will be addressed for a future release from Uni in the U.K. or Germany?
What's funny to me is that everyone always says they want these things to look like what they saw, like the film they saw (IF they saw it or something shot on similar stock).
If we want to discuss exposures on the original negative, that's an entirely different discussion, as there are problem shots, which now look as good as they can. For those, the fix is to reshoot the film.
Is it possible this "anomaly" will be addressed for a future release from Uni in the U.K. or Germany?
If it's an encoding issue that appeared at the BD authoring step, it could be.
But I don't think so, because I simply don't believe the issue is issuing from this step, but is straight baked-in on the restored digital master. Otherwise, it would mean the BD isn't faithful to the restoration.
You're absolutely correct!
Universal purposefully degrained this one. If you've ever visited their facility in Nevada, where most of the work is performed, you'll understand what's going on the moment you enter, hit the reception area, and see the huge frame enlargement.
These people pray at the shrine of the original Patton and Longest Day transfers.
These are the people who gave us The Sting.
But how do they degrain?
You have to see it to believe it!
Once scanned, cleaned and colored, the data, which we all know is bits, is mixed into a granular formula under a license from Purina. Once moistened, it is fed to cows, free range, on the acreage adjacent to the facility.
After proper injestion, the cows are ready to give data, and are milked in the normal fashion. As the milk, now containing data bits flows through the transfer system, it is pushed through a high pressure valve, and imbibed to a long strip of 35mm film stock.
Similar to, but not replicating, the last vestige of the Technicolor system, Universal's variant yields a new low-contrast positive, without any vestige of grain.
I find the look marvelous!
These rolls of image are then shipped to their underground lab in Burbank, where it is quickly scanned, and a desired amount of faux grain is added, on the fly. This to keep on-line grain fanatics at bay.
Had I not actually seen this on the HTF gathering a couple of years ago, I'd not believe it.
They do make occasional errors -- possibly it's the cow's mood, or a Purina problem -- and some original grain will appear. These unfortunate occurrences have led to mass firings, especially over embarrassments such as One-Eyed or Spartacus.
Personally, I'm a fan of their process, but must go now, as I need to get to my morning prayers at the Patton shrine...
Does Universal have an underground vault that stores all the grain they remove? I would hate it if they just threw all of it away. They might need to add it back in someday or use it in another scan of a film that is grainless. [emoji57][emoji57]
I understand that if you really want to see the best looking version of this film, the VHS is the one to get.
I have to disagree with you. The ViewMaster disc is the definitive way to watch this.
Are the cows are hand-milked, as is done in loving fashion every day at, say, the Abbey of Regina Laudis? Or are they subjected to mechanical milking on an assembly line? This has to have a huge effect on results.
If none of you have driven past the miles of gigantic grain silos dotted throughout the Midwest and the Great Plains, you have an awe inspiring sight in store. And talk about security. The studios have decades of experience, so just try getting within a quarter-mile of one of those things.
Ah, there's the trademark RAH sarcasm. For a moment there I was wondering if you were going to impart that AAWIL was shot on the same no-grain "Russian film stock" as GoldenEye was (chortle chortle tee hee, we are laughing!) but I tell you what, I'll never think of a grain silo in the same way again. Universal's stores must be overflowing, the sheer amount of fuckwittery they've unleashed on their catalogue over the years. I hear Paramount's harvest was plenty bountiful too.
*Clearly* everybody is taking their eyes off the real point here, which is when you have a movie with Jenny Agutter dressed as a nurse, any quality of transfer is acceptable and a necessary purchase.