A Few Words About A few words about... The Betty Grable Collection - Volume One

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  1. Robert Harris

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    Fox Home Video continues to access their classics musical library with the release of four three-strip Technicolor Betty Grable productions.
    For all of the element problems with the Fox library, these four films look surprisingly good.
    The earliest, and the first of the Grable films in Technicolor, Down Argentine Way (1940) is among the best of the group for quality. Color, dirt and registration all seem quite acceptable.
    Moon Over Miami (1945) also arrives with good color, generally good registration, with occasional problems, and dirt levels typical for the elements. This is a re-make of the 1938 Three Blind Mice with Loretta Young, Joel McCrea and David Niven, and was itself re-made just five years later, in 1946, as Three Little Girls in Blue, also in Technicolor.
    The Dolly Sisters (1945) also has good color, a few more registration problems than Moon and an acceptable dirt level.
    The final in the package My Blue Heaven (1950) has very good color, registration and dirt levels, and is the best looking of the group.
    All four films have minimal shadow detail, with overly heavy blacks, as well as occasional swirling color, especially in the neutral tones. This is based upon the extant film elements, and generally out of the control of the Fox, which has done a nice job bringing these films to DVD.
    As part of this continued series of Marquee Musicals, the four films come highly recommended.
    Your support of these titles is needed to see the series continue. Hopefully, we'll be seeing volumes 2 - 5.
    RAH
     
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    From Mr. Harris' description, it sounds like these Grable transfers are the same ones run on Fox Movie Channel with regularity. They are "acceptable", but do suffer from dirt, grain, registration problems, and worst of all, look NOTHING like they did upon release. What a shame.
     
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    Conrad, I don't think that's what Mr. Harris tried to say with his review.

    As I recall, he said this collection is Highly recommended what doesn't mean, at all that the transfers are not good.

    I have Down Argentine Way on dvd and I can tell you that it looks great.

    Fox has been done a wonderful job with its classic catalog lately, so I will not think twice in support this box set.

    And, yes, Fox will only release more classic musicals, if that box's returns are good.

    Thanks Fox, for this great collection.
     
  5. Robert Harris

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    These films do NOT suffer from dirt, grain, registration problems, etc. And they cannot look as they did upon release, as this is home video.
    The four new Grable films on DVD are perfectly fine for the format, with nice, occasionally eye-popping color, especially in pure cyans, magentas and yellows.
    No problems here, just not perfect, and never will be.
    RAH
     
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    It's a no-brainer purchase for me, and as the four films are all superior in content to PIN-UP GIRL, I'm looking forward to receiving them. I can ditch my DVD-Rs burned from Fox Movie Channel broadcasts.
     
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    Thanks for the post, as I have said before I am absolutely buying these next week.

    Are there any unannounced extras included along the lines of the the deleted number on the Pin-UP Girl dvd?
     
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    Thank you, Mr Harris, for your thoughts about the new Betty Grable Collection. Your comments are very much appreciated.

    One questions about this set, though: Is it true that the four titles continue the trend of having a set of lobby cards? (The first wave of Marquee Musicals did have them!)
     
  9. Robert Harris

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    Lobby cards included.
     
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    They do indeed. My set arrived the other day, and each title contains a set of cards. A really wonderful package all around.
     
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    The heavy blacks worry me.

    For some reason Fox have nearly always had grey scale problems with their older classic titles.

    I just hope that these are better than that awful looking Pin Up Girl.

    Just the same, I'd better get my order in as I didn't realise they were so close.
     
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    AS has been said before, PIN-UP GIRL looks the way it does because it was a last minute replacement for THE GANG'S ALL HERE and no work had been done on it.

    I can't wait for these. I remember the VHS release of MOON OVER MIAMI had a re-channeled directional stereo mix. I used it for years to make sure my old stereo speakers were in the right positions..heheh.
     
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    The heavy blacks, or more properly, lack of shadow detail, are part of the extant image, and there is no way around this.
    RAH
     
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    This is released just in time for the DDD sale. Yea!
     
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    I've just watched Down Argentine Way. To my ears the opening soundtrack during the credit titles is badly distorted. I found it unpleasant to listen to. Has anyone else noticed this?
     
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    Now when will they be releasing Volume 2 of her films?
     
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    Volume 1 didn't sell so why would Fox do a volume 2?
     
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    I just checked amazon to compare Amazon Best Sellers Ranks between this and The Best of Abbott & Costello, Vol. 1, which was released.
    The 8 year old The Best of Abbott & Costello, Vol. 1 currently ranks 5,838, while Betty's 4 disc volume set from 06' is at 58,103! Enough said!!
     
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    So much for that then. Figures don't lie.
     
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    But not knowing how many copies that relates to, isn't this just guesswork.
    Besides, any future Grable compilation will come through as an MOD.
     

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