A few words about.....FIOS

Discussion in 'Computers' started by Ronald Epstein, Dec 23, 2005.

  1. Ronald Epstein

    Ronald Epstein Administrator

    Jul 3, 1997
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    Ronald Epstein
    Fios is something that everybody who
    enjoys high-speed Internet in their homes should
    be looking out for.

    For over the the past year, Verizon has begun
    stringing high-speed fiber-optic connections
    directly to the home looking to replace cable
    or high-speed DSL connections over a phone line.

    DSL typically offers a download speed of
    256k - 3M for 19.99-49.99 per month. Cable
    typically offers a download speed of 1.5M - 6M
    for 39.99-59.99 per month.

    Fios significantly ups the ante by offering
    5-Mbit downloads/2-Mbit uploads for just $39.95 a
    month, or $34.95 a month as part of an existing
    Verizon plan. The mid-tier upgrade offers a
    whopping 15-Mbits/s down and 2-Mbits/s upstream
    for just $49.95 a month, or $44.95 a month with
    an existing Verizon plan.

    To cut to the chase here and give this information
    to you in its most simplistic terms....

    Cable Internet was costing me $60 per month for
    a 5MB connection. Fios gives me 3 times that
    speed at $45 per month.

    I personally became aware of Fios well
    over a year ago when Verizon began introducing it
    in California, Texas and Florida. I knew this
    fiber-optic technology was something that was
    going to shake up the cable industry.

    After all, nobody likes the cable companies.
    (a little more on that in a second...)

    Imagine my excitement when three months ago,
    Verizon began stringing fiber optic cable in my
    neighborhood. It's a welcoming event that can't
    be ignored. There were trucks everywhere, some
    closing down portions of road as huge rolls of
    cable were unloaded onto poles.

    As soon as Verizon had completed their work,
    I signed up to be amongst the first in my
    neighborhood to have the service installed.
    I called the company on a Friday and was
    promised an install within 5 days.

    The installer who showed up was very polite
    and knowledgeable. He hands me a welcome kit,
    checks my operating system (XP is a must!)
    and goes through a lengthy explanation of the
    install process which will take 4 hours to do.

    Having Fios installed in the home is
    no small matter. Cable has to be strung into
    home. A new box must be erected on the side
    of the house. Inside, a medium-sized box is
    mounted on the wall. This houses a backup
    battery about the size of what is used on
    boats. Next to it sits a smaller sized power
    module. Both of these boxes must sit within
    50' of the computer.

    I ordered a D-Link 802.11g wireless router
    with my setup since I have a laptop I use
    throughout the house. Verizon charged me
    an extra $60 for the router. I *think* they
    supply a basic wired router at no charge with
    the installation.

    Before Fios was activated, I checked my cable
    Internet speed and it averaged just at 5MBPS.
    After Fios, I was getting a connection speed
    of 15MBPS locally. The speed, however, was not
    consistent. A speed test cross country (NJ to
    Seattle) garnered much slower results at only
    5MB (cable speed). That is scary!

    It's only natural to expect that speed greatly
    pends on the website you are visiting. Power
    websites like YAHOO instantly popped into place.
    However, there was still a lag when visiting
    HOME THEATER FORUM, a site we know to be slower
    than others.

    Also, older computers may not benefit from
    the boost in speed. My secondary computer,
    now 4 years old, did not come close to
    producing speeds of my brand-new computer.
    I expect that processing speed has a lot to
    do with how fast pages will load. Faster
    Internet is not going to improve the speed
    of a slower computer.

    Though cable was always fast, I could see
    improved speed. Pages just popped up with
    absolutely no hesitation. Downloads that took
    12 minutes now were reduced to just under 5.

    The Fios installer informed me that
    unlike cable, the system will not slow down
    as more people in the neighborhood log on.
    Each home connection has a direct pipeline
    to the central office.

    Verizon offers up to 9 email accounts which
    is more than any one person needs. Configuring
    email for email programs such as Outlook or
    Eudora is not difficult, but there is an
    extra step where you have to make sure that your
    email program authenticates INCOMING and OUTGOING
    mail with your login name and password.

    If you want to grab your email while on the road
    from their webpage, be prepared to be disappointed.
    I found their web interface to be very clunky and
    not very intuitive. I am still looking for a better
    webside interface that lets me combine all my
    email accounts from different servers on one site.
    The Verizon email is capable of doing this, but I
    still have not been able to get it to work, and
    I greatly dislike the interface I am forced to work
    with. Comcast was far better in this regard.

    Overall, I think Fios is the best thing
    to come around since the cable companies entered
    the broadband market. I am suddenly finding
    myself back in the '90s looking at a revolutionary
    new product that will enhance my Internet experience.

    In Conclusion

    There is a noticeably improved difference in
    speed when in the 15MB Fios over cable
    broadband. Realize, however, speed is not always
    consitent as everything pends on the actual speed
    of the site you are visiting, though page loads
    on slower sites are shortened.

    The biggest improvements will be seen in downloads
    and uploads. I see a HUGE increase in speed
    working within an FTP environment.

    Fios is the real deal and I hope
    that Verizon continues their aggressive strategy
    to get as many people hooked up to the network as
  2. Kevin T

    Kevin T Screenwriter

    Jul 12, 2001
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    sounds promising. since i live in mobile, alabama, maybe i'll be able to jump on board around 2010.

    kevin t
  3. _alex_

    _alex_ Auditioning

    Dec 22, 2005
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    I was just as excited when I first got my FIOS a couple of months ago.
    What gets me just as excited is the FIOS TV that is supposed to come out soon. It is going to have 20 HD channels, 60 music channels and 100 other cable channels.
    It is supposed to start in my area (central florida) in early spring.
    It cost $40 a month plus $10 a month for a HD box or$13 a month for the HD box plus DVR. ( I think the standard box was $4 a month)
  4. Sami Kallio

    Sami Kallio Screenwriter

    Jan 6, 2004
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    I have both FIOS internet (for about a year now) and FIOS TV (for a few months) and they both are great services. Only minus is that the IP address is dynamic (I don't know if you can request a static address). Great PQ on FIOS TV over satellite, and most of all 2mbits UPLOAD on my web connection!

    No mention of disallowing servers on the service agreement but they do block port 80 so I had to reroute to different port. Large files give out ~240KB/s download speeds from work. [​IMG]

    If you haven't seen this one, it's a must: http://skylinegtr.go.dyndns.org/sami...i_Vatanen.mpeg
  5. Tekara

    Tekara Supporting Actor

    Jan 8, 2003
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    waiting for fios here, I live about 400ft from the main link up (can see it out my kitchen window. So I know the service would truely kick some butt!!!
  6. Kimmo Jaskari

    Kimmo Jaskari Screenwriter

    Feb 27, 2000
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    Actually, while that doesn't exactly sound bad, it sounds pretty darn lame.

    The fiber should be able to carry amounts like 1000 mbits in both directions. That's the whole point of having optical fiber - massive bandwidth.

    Of course, no company could offer that kind of bandwidth for humane amounts of money since bandwidth from the company elsewhere costs a lot, but 15 mbits is just not enough, and 2 mbits up is an insult. It should at least be a symmetrical 15 mbits both ways - shouldn't be any technical hurdles for having the same speed, if it is built on fiber optics.

    I'm on a rock-solid ADSL2+ line myself as I type this, and my downlink is currently 21.9 mbits. Uplink is limited to 1.3 mbits for technical reasons though which is a bit annoying but even so.

    If they're going to sell you fiber links, they should give you some real speeds too, not just 15 mbits. IMHO, of course.
  7. ChristopherDAC

    ChristopherDAC Producer

    Feb 18, 2004
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    Of course, the capacity of the fiber itself is not the primary factor in determining connexion speed. Think for a moment, and you'll see that it is the upstream network which sets the cap: if the fiber to your house has the same data capacity as the trunk line, you can only get a speed equivalent to the quotient of the trunk line capacity by the number of subscribers, multiplied by the inverse of the duty factor [portion of the time you are actually using full-speed download capacity] -- and it may fall below that during peak usage. Upload/download asymmetry is likewise mostly a function of the switching equipment.
    As "backbone" networks and routing systems are upgraded, which is a capital-intensive process, those datarates will creep upward. Finland, to be blunt, has a rather different situation with regard to telecommunications infrastructure and public-utilities organisation than the United States, so the realms of the "possible, practical, and likely" are different in the two countries.
  8. Ronald Epstein

    Ronald Epstein Administrator

    Jul 3, 1997
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    Verizon does offer 30mbps of download speed for
    $179 a month. That's far too much money for a home
    user, but probably perfect for a business.

    This is still new technology for the consumer
    market. The installer told me that he expects
    more competitive packages and speed increases as
    the cable companies try to catch up.

    It has been rumored that the cable companies may
    attempt to go head-to-head with Fios by offering
    MORE bandwidth and increased speeds. Thing is, can
    cable speeds actually go as high as fiber optics?
  9. SethH

    SethH Cinematographer

    Dec 17, 2003
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    Others have made some good points. Also, Verizon does not want lots of people running web servers on their consumer lines. They want people to have to purhcase business services to run high-volume web servers. If they were offering 15mbps upload lots more people would want to run web servers on them.
  10. Kimmo Jaskari

    Kimmo Jaskari Screenwriter

    Feb 27, 2000
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    No, fiber optics are pretty much the holy grail of connectivity at the moment. DSL and cable are stopgap methods of getting decent data rates using the older equipment already in place.

    You can pump truly stupendous amounts of data through fiber. For experimental techniques, I've seen numbers like a terabit mentioned (though nothing like that exists to date as far as I know.)

    Getting a real fiber hookup at home should take care of data needs for the foreseeable future. All one needs to do is turn on more speed later on.

    As for my message above... of course you're right, Cristopher. Getting the fast hookup at home doesn't mean the entire network could handle thousands of homes with unfettered access.

    I think I was a bit more grouchy than usual when I wrote my post. [​IMG] It was valid but perhaps a bit overly negative and I didn't pause to consider market realities as much as I probably should have.

    People who can get a fiber hookup definitely should go for it. Future upgrades should be accomplished fairly easily that way too.
  11. Craig S

    Craig S Producer

    Mar 4, 2000
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    Craig Seanor
    All this talk about 15 mbits not being enough makes me laugh. You're spoiled. Many of us are still suffering with dial-up. F***in' Verizon STILL hasn't enabled DSL for my neighborhood (and yes, I'm well within the maximum distance from the CO) almost a year after it was first promised. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
  12. Tekara

    Tekara Supporting Actor

    Jan 8, 2003
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    Internet is becomming an integral part of society. I even make use of it on my cell phone, which when EVDO hits my area will be great since it'll have low-end broadband speeds.

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