A Few Words About A few words about... Enter the Dragon -- in High Definition

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  1. Robert Harris

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    I'm not a fan of Bruce Lee films, nor have I ever liked Enter the Dragon in any way.

    While the cinematography is more than adequate to the film, I find the acting and, above all, the dubbing of slightly worse than laughable magnitude.

    That said, those who do like Enter the Dragon will be thrilled with Warner's high definition release. It looks like the 1973 film that it is. Reds and blacks pop off the screen. Grain structure looks perfect.

    All in all, the film works beautifully in this high def transfer.

    While this is not a film that I would personally recommend to anyone, its fans will have reason to cheer.

    RAH
     
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    Thanks Robert for your honesty.

    I am happy with this tittle since I had the 1998 flipper disc. For fans of the film, there's over 4 hours of special features. Still haven't found the time to watch all of it yet...........
     
  3. Ed St. Clair

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    Thanks for the "RAH" seal of approval, for a quality video presentation.

    Even the nigh sayers of this title, on another forum, have backed off a bit.
    Unless you zoom 4x to 25x & are no closer than a 2x viewing distance, you should be able to enjoy one of the greatest Martial Arts films of all time & Bruce Lee's crowning achievement.
     
  4. Dan Hitchman

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    I'd still like to see WB and other studios back off using their old 1080i masters until new telecines can be made, and go with the films that have been given state of the art, true 1080p masters. Hopefully made from 2k or even better 4k digital IP's for restoration and/or archiving purposes.
     
  5. Robert Harris

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    Warner reacted immediately to consumer comments regarding 1080i masters which had been inadvertently sent up the line for HD DVD production. Every film based upon 1080i which was not at the point of production has been removed from the schedule. I believe that we may possibly be seeing two more interlace releases, and none thereafter.

    Several of the major releases have been pulled, and are being newly transferred in 1080p.

    In light of the many layers of complexities in getting HD DVD into the marketplace, this has been a miniscule problem in the scheme of things, to which Warner has reacted swiftly and properly.

    RAH
     
  6. Paul Arnette

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    Robert,

    Thanks for passing along the news about Warner Bros. and the 1080i masters. I knew that they wouldn't let us down.

    Ed St. Clair,

    I have a question about your statement here:


    Are you saying that if you are sitting less than 2X viewing distance you are going to see problems with this transfer even if you aren't zooming, or only if you are zooming and sitting less than 2x viewing distance?

    Your quote makes it sound like the later, which I hope is the case. I'm not really familiar with the way you are using the term zoom, I assume were talking front project here, but I do sit 1.5X viewing distance from my RPTV, and I have a copy of Enter the Dragon on order from Amazon, so I hope I won't see the bobbing artifacts.
     
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    As I noted in my review at dOc (not yet live), I've seen 35mm presentations of this film that didn't look anywhere near as good as this HD DVD. Despite the 1080i issue, it still looks terrific.
     
  8. Ed St. Clair

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    Correct,
    their is 1 "hanger-on'r" at "The Other Forum", that see's artifacts at 1.5x viewing distance. However, just because your at said distance, doesn't mean you''ll see artifacts.
    You'll have to know what to look for & when to look for them! ;-)
    So, sit back and enjoy the popcorn & the movie!!!

    I consider 1.5x to be "the ultimate critical viewing distance". Why did you choose that distance? Are you 'the ultimate critical viewer'?!?! ;-)

    If/when I do an HT, I would also like to have a 1.5x VD (YIKES!!!), just my main seating position would be 2x. Right now, because of my limited (re: lack of funds) budget, I sit a little over 2x (maybe 2.2/2.4) and still see a lot of undesirable junk (however, that could just be my taste in movies ;-) )!!!
     
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    Mr. Harris,

    When you say, several of the major releases have been pulled and are being newly transfered to 1080p, do you mean they will be doing proper deinterlacing, or do you mean they are going to do whole new transfers from scratch?
     
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    I love Bruce Lee movies to see the machine that is the human body working in high performance! I don't watch Bruce Lee for the acting or the dialog - I watch to see Bruce open a big ol' can of Whoop Ass!
     
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    Did they sell whoop-ass in cans back in the early 1970s? [​IMG]
     
  12. Robert Harris

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    To Paul Borges...

    New transfers from scratch.
     
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    Robert

    That's great to hear! Thanks for the info.

    Mike
     
  14. Ed St. Clair

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    Agree!
    Classy move.
    Thanks, RAH.
     
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    Yeah, it looks like Enter the Dragon is the last of the Warner "bob" releases (previously affected titles include The Fugitive, Full Metal Jacket, Lethal Weapon, and The Perfect Storm).
     
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    Which two? I hope they're ones I have no interest in. [​IMG]
     
  17. Ed St. Clair

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    And I wonder;
    How long before these affected titles are revisited in HD?
    Three years? Five years?? Or, even longer??? :-(

    Maybe they'll come out in BD correct?!?!?!
    That would be a hoot!!! ;-)
     
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    Kris over at AVSFORUM apparently knows the guy who encoded the movies and according to him the problem is in the original master and cannot be undone at this point (was apparently an artifact of some digital DNR WB applied to their 1080i masters). This means that a better quality release likely won't be out for a few years as these movies essentially have to be completely remastered.
     
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    I watched this disc yesterday and have no complaints.





    Crawdaddy
     
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    RAH,

    Great news. WB has really gone the extra mile with their mastering, care, and responsiveness to the HT community.

    Bravo.
     

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