Joseph Goodman
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RAH, would you know what element was used for this scan/transfer?
OCNOriginally Posted by Joseph Goodman /t/324701/a-few-words-about-vertigo-in-blu-ray/30#post_3993762
RAH, would you know what element was used for this scan/transfer?
Appreciated, and will pass along.Originally Posted by jeffsultanof /t/324701/a-few-words-about-vertigo-in-blu-ray/30#post_3993793
Robert,
As someone who has long admired your work in saving several classic films, I truly appreciate the comments from your corner about Vertigo. I can sense that you are slightly frustrated that this release is not exactly what you might have truly wanted, but your comments are certainly enough for me to buy this item, one that I have long waited for.
Seeing what you did for the 70MM presentation was a real highlight of my many years of going to movies, by the way.
Thank you,
Jeff
Did they do the OCN scan at less than 4K? If they did a 4K scan wouldn't it be relatively inexpensive to tranfer the picture to archival film?Robert Harris said:
Yes, but one needs a color and density correct image to record out to film.JoeDoakes said:Did they do the OCN scan at less than 4K? If they did a 4K scan wouldn't it be relatively inexpensive to tranfer the picture to archival film?
I'm confused. Aren't photochemical restorations (such as the one you did ) done to create new, high-quality printing materials because the original vault elements have become unusable ?Robert Harris said:
This may be one of the places where my lack of knowledge shows, but I'll ask my question in the hope of learning something. Since they did a 4K scan, would doing an archival copy allow them to fix the color and density issues later when it's more cost feasible without worrying that the elements would further deteriorate? Conversely, with the nature of a digital conversion, are you saying that you have to get it right when you make an archival copy or it will be wrong forever? Thanks for you answers and your patience.Robert Harris said:Yes, but one needs a color and density correct image to record out to film.
And they don't have one.
Why go to the expense and trouble of recording a sow's ear to film for posterity?
RAH
Chances are, it would not.JoeDoakes said:This may be one of the places where my lack of knowledge shows, but I'll ask my question in the hope of learning something. Since they did a 4K scan, would doing an archival copy allow them to fix the color and density issues later when it's more cost feasible without worrying that the elements would further deteriorate? Conversely, with the nature of a digital conversion, are you saying that you have to get it right when you make an archival copy or it will be wrong forever? Thanks for you answers and your patience.
That's exactly what Disney has done with their entire library (as explained in this thread) They are scanning everything at 4K in order to preserve everything from further decay, and then will do the restoration work when then get around to itJoeDoakes said:This may be one of the places where my lack of knowledge shows, but I'll ask my question in the hope of learning something. Since they did a 4K scan, would doing an archival copy allow them to fix the color and density issues later when it's more cost feasible without worrying that the elements would further deteriorate? Conversely, with the nature of a digital conversion, are you saying that you have to get it right when you make an archival copy or it will be wrong forever? Thanks for you answers and your patience.
I find it hard to believe that Universal is not able to care properly for a movie of the caliber of Vertigo as they could have done more but chose not to. If it comes down to corporate greed, plain old incompetence or a mix of both I cannot say.Ransom Stoddard said:I find it hard to believe that a film that has so many (wealthy) admirers is struggling for a budget to restore it properly.
Perhaps we can encourage them to "get it correct" in time for its individual release.Robert Harris said:The problem with the new Vertigo restoration is that getting it correct would have been very, very easy.
Good questions. I really wish the UK disc had included the mono.Oblivion138 said:Interestingly, the back of the mini poster repro for Vertigo (at least in the Limited Edition UK set) lists the group commentary as a Blu-ray feature, but obviously, it's not on the disc. Also, the UK disc doesn't have the mono track...any idea why this is? First Universal downgrades Psycho's original audio to lossy for the US release, now they're including the mono track on the US release of Vertigo, but not the UK release...is this some kind of ADHD situation that they need to address?
That said, the new 5.1 track is such a vast improvement over the previous 5.1 mix. As soon as I heard the gunshots in the opening rooftop chase, my face broke out in a big stupid grin. I'd still prefer to have the mono as an option, but at least this mix seems more faithful than Psycho, Jaws, et al.