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Of course. I never said it wasn't a problem, I said that it shouldn't be a problem that prevents one from purchasing an otherwise decent release.Originally Posted by RobertR
Yes, the problem can be dealt with, but it is a problem.
So what is it?Originally Posted by Robert George
More than enough.
Thanks, Richard! It looks like the UK release is just fine with respect to content. Besides the cover, the only discordant note is the "5.1 Dolby Digital Audio". I assume that's wrong, and it's really lossless. The green cover is gorgeous, and I would try to get that one and replace the UGLY one with it.Originally Posted by Richard Gallagher
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If Warner Brothers follows the same pattern as Casablanca, it will be more than a few months before there will be a disc-only release. It will be a couple of years.Originally Posted by Martin Teller
Not when you know WB is going to release the same thing in the US, probably with a different cover, a few months from now. After they've milked all the suckers they can on this bloated box of lame tchotchkes.
If this info is correct than the UK set will have most, but not all of the extras. The 80 minute feature "The Patchwork Girl of Oz" seems to be missing. (Dare I say "rights issue"?)Originally Posted by Richard Gallagher
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The WB store says that the single-disc BD of Casablanca is available now, so the wait was about nine months.Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield
If Warner Brothers follows the same pattern as Casablanca, it will be more than a few months before there will be a disc-only release. It will be a couple of years.
Originally Posted by Christian Preischl
If this info is correct than the UK set will have most, but not all of the extras. The 80 minute feature "The Patchwork Girl of Oz" seems to be missing. (Dare I say "rights issue"?)
So what is it?
Even though I am one of the gullible who will buy the deluxe set even if both are available, I agree that this is really a marketing error because the extra they will get from people who don't really want the deluxe set will probably not offset the loss of sales of the single disk set. Its eventual release will probably not benefit from the hype currently being generated, as it will be forgotten in only a few months.Originally Posted by AL KUENSTER
I think it is a mistake by WB not to offer a movie only version along with the box set. There will be those who will buy the box set anyway, regardless. WB would sell alot more BR if movie only, same with Casablanca and GWTW. In these economic times it just makes sense to give us more options. Just my 2 cents.
Yes, and Yes. A special projector 4K projector was loaned to the academy by Sony for the event, as they explained, "Our Christie digital projector we installed four or five years ago is only 2k, and apparently not good enough anymore" They said all weekend had been spent setting up for the screening-the first 4K screened at that theatre.Originally Posted by Michel_Hafner
Was it really from a 4K DCP and on a 4K projector (no upsampled 2K)? I would have liked to see that. The grain must have been very interesting to look at.
Looking good is way too subjective an argument. WB apparently did a world class job on the 4K master and if they want to keep the quality on that level down to the Blu Ray then a compression job that is state of the art is called for. State of the art means high average bit rates and even higher peaks. Why? Because otherwise you lose detail, accuracy and fidelity. Will it look bad at 17 Mbit/s? No. For many it will not even look bad at 10 Mbit/s. But does that mean WB should use 10 Mbit/s because it will look good to most people? Surely not. Will it look better at 25 Mbit/s average? You bet. It will be closer to the uncompressed original and more faithful, especially concerning grain detail and lack of more or less masked blocking. Will it look better to most people? Surely not. They have neither the equipment nor the experience to see the difference. So is it pointless to use 25 Mbit/s instead of 17? I don't think so. Actually give me 35 Mbit/s (as you easily can on a DB50) and you have used BD's full capability and the best and most accurate rendition of fine detail the 1080p master has and Blu Ray can deliver. That would be the equivalent of the job they did on the 4K master. And asking for it is neither unreasonable nor pointless. Maybe they did go this high. If so, bravo. Do you know? Or did you just want to start a discussion and show how silly people are who are not too excited about the standard WB compression jobs at < 20 Mbit/s, because they look 'good' already?Originally Posted by Robert George
If it looks good, what difference does it make?
Of course. Everyone knows it is far more important to have a high number on the bit rate meter. That's what Blu-ray is all about.Looking good is way too subjective an argument.
You pretty well have that covered.Or did you just want to start a discussion and show how silly people are...
Yes, but you're on the other end of the spectrum here. You're telling us that that bitrate will determine PQ, 100% of the time. And you're willing to hammer that point into the ground to the extent that it appears that you will always believe that a bitrate is the only benchmark, up to the point of believing it over "your own lying eyes" for being too subjective in a double-blind type of comparison if it didn't bear out your hypothesis.Originally Posted by Michel_Hafner
Looking good is way too subjective an argument.
Thanks for that response, I know it just feels better when you notice they utilize maximum disc space etc, so it is good ot hear it from you that it shouldn't be a worry issue so much.Originally Posted by Robert Harris
Every film, and its compression are different. Using additional space above what is perceived as the "sweet spot" doesn't necessarily add any image quality. One would hope that the right spot is found, and that if more space is needed, that extras be dumped toward optimum image quality.