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UHD Review A few words about...™ The Wizard of Oz -- in 4k UHD Blu-ray

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Robert Harris, Oct 21, 2019.

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    It's settled for some of us.
     
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    [​IMG]Because she isn't repeating the line. She is very clearly saying Toto in the first line and Don't in the next.
     
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    If it was a reel change issue, which would have been heard? They kept the second. Trust me, I want to be wrong.
     
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    Here is my copy.
     

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    What is date and origin of cont? Something published?
     
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    It was from The Ultimate Oz Boxed Set in 1993.
     
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    Another possibility: Judy looped the line. The first take wasn't emotional enough, so she did it again. (The second one sounds like she is crying more.) They forgot to take out the first one. Would that make sense?
     
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    Please read this article about the changes made to the mono track...
    http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/articles/wizard_of_oz_reactions.htm
    Also, an edit was made to the music later on the film, and additional foley added to the opening scene with the baby chicks.
    They did clean up the original track before any changes were made and I believe that is what should be included here. I honestly don't think they know that. The mono on the bd is just the folded down stereo version. I believe all of this to be an oversight.
     
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    That was a good read, the author's synopsis of the plot was a riot. And I always enjoy learning more of the history (original or restorative) of these films. I cannot comment on the changed dialog, however. Sorry.
     
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    I am now leaning toward two takes of the line, with the second one correct. They should have cut the first take but left it in by mistake.
     
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    Only the CAV Criterion WIzard of Oz might solve this matter as it is genuinely frame by frame and from 1988.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/criterion/comments/99oqjw/siskel_ebert_discuss_the_criterion_release_of_the/
     
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    I have the 1985 vhs and the line is there.
     
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    This reads like a possible conversation that could've taken place during the cutting of "Groundhog Day".;)
     
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    I am sorry to have driven everyone crazy over the years with this. I just want to make sure it is correct. I think it may be. My autism and OCD is hard to live with.
     
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    I really enjoyed that article. However, it did make me wish I'd kept my 1999 DVD so I could check out the sepia tone in that one. I wonder how the sepia looks in the new UHD ... have they made it revert to how it appears it was originally intended? Perhaps Robert can tell us....
     
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    I have that same continuity script as it was part of Deluxe Edition 10-19-99 DVD Release. The continuity script is dated March 15, 1939.
     
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    I kept my 1999 Deluxe Edition DVD release along with the 10-25-05 3-Disc DVD Release. I have three Blu-rays of it and whom am I kidding, I will most likely pick up this 4K/UHD release too.
     
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    RAH,

    I have the same continuity script and it's dated March 15, 1939.
     
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    Regardless of the possibly missing single word of dialogue I'm going to enjoy the heck out of this release until I'm dead probably!
     
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