Bob_S.
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Agreed. One of my favorite silents as well. Still amazed at the special effects. Just got it today but haven't watched it yet.
Never...Originally Posted by John Weller
Raymond Roheuer was said to tamper with the credits for the films.
Despite the title, the 1924 film bears little to no relation to the plot and characters of the 1940 film outside of their relation to stories in Arabian Nights.Pioneer14 said:I may get this when the 1940 version of the Criterion collection gets a blu ray treatment.
I'm unaware of any legal matters.Originally Posted by atcolomb
Of all the silent movies the one i want to see in blu-ray is Abel Gance's "Napoleon" (1927). I have the MCA Home Video laserdisc which looks good but i hope one day when the legal matters have been taken care of we can see a new release.
Here are some info i did read on some internet posts and maybe it is old news but it makes me think there were some legal problems: "A copyright dispute over which music soundtrack should be performed with "Napoleon" exists between Zoetrope Studio/Francis Ford Coppola and the BFI/Kevin Brownlow/Carl Davis. When Brownlow assembled the original restored version in 1981 two scores were eventually produced, one (for the American market?) by Carmine Coppola (Francis' father and composer of the Godfather scores) and another (for the UK market?) by Carl Davis, veteran of many new scores for old silent movies. Prior to two live performances of the Davis score in December 2004 to accompany a new 5hr+ restoration of Napoloen, Coppola attempted to prevent the performances going ahead without his late father's score on the grounds that his family owns the copyright over the film, even though carmine Coppola's score was written for the short 4hr restoration. In the end the perfomances went ahead with Davis' score being used, although the dispute remains unresolved. It is uncertain whether Davis' score will ever be heard again while the dispute remains ongoing". "Zoetrope wants to release the 4 hour American version (1981) with the Carmine Coppola score. Kevin Brownlow wants the 5 1/2 hour BFI version (1990's) with the Carl Davis score. Also, StudioCanal apparently has international rights, Zoetrope has R1 rights to the Zoetrope version, Universal has R1 distribution rights, etc". "Who owns Napoleon? This is the hot question currently being debated in the usually uneventful world of film music. It concerns the rights to one of the undisputed masterpieces of the silent cinema, Abel Gance’s five-hour epic Napoléon (1927), which both Universal Studios and the British Film Institute (BFI) say they possess. Their rival claims have led to a legal battle over whose music may accompany screenings, including that due to take place this weekend at the Royal Festival Hall in London. The BFI version has remained loyal to a score put together by the composer and conductor Carl Davis, Universal’s to music by the late Carmine Coppola, father of The Godfather director Francis Ford, and the Coppola clan is out to protect its own".Robert Harris said:I'm unaware of any legal matters. RAH
Mr. Coppola (Carmine) created additional music for Godfather II.Originally Posted by Moe Dickstein
I believe Nino Rota would be surprised to learn that Carmine Coppola did the score for The Godfather films...
Originally Posted by atcolomb
Here are some info i did read on some internet posts and maybe it is old news but it makes me think there were some legal problems:
"A copyright dispute over which music soundtrack should be performed with "Napoleon" exists between Zoetrope Studio/Francis Ford Coppola and the BFI/Kevin Brownlow/Carl Davis. When Brownlow assembled the original restored version in 1981 two scores were eventually produced, one (for the American market?) by Carmine Coppola (Francis' father and composer of the Godfather scores) and another (for the UK market?) by Carl Davis, veteran of many new scores for old silent movies. Prior to two live performances of the Davis score in December 2004 to accompany a new 5hr+ restoration of Napoloen, Coppola attempted to prevent the performances going ahead without his late father's score on the grounds that his family owns the copyright over the film, even though carmine Coppola's score was written for the short 4hr restoration. In the end the perfomances went ahead with Davis' score being used, although the dispute remains unresolved. It is uncertain whether Davis' score will ever be heard again while the dispute remains ongoing".
"Zoetrope wants to release the 4 hour American version (1981) with the Carmine Coppola score.
Kevin Brownlow wants the 5 1/2 hour BFI version (1990's) with the Carl Davis score.
Also, StudioCanal apparently has international rights, Zoetrope has R1 rights to the Zoetrope version, Universal has R1 distribution rights, etc".
"Who owns Napoleon? This is the hot question currently being debated in the usually uneventful world of film music. It concerns the rights to one of the undisputed masterpieces of the silent cinema, Abel Gance’s five-hour epic Napoléon (1927), which both Universal Studios and the British Film Institute (BFI) say they possess. Their rival claims have led to a legal battle over whose music may accompany screenings, including that due to take place this weekend at the Royal Festival Hall in London. The BFI version has remained loyal to a score put together by the composer and conductor Carl Davis, Universal’s to music by the late Carmine Coppola, father of The Godfather director Francis Ford, and the Coppola clan is out to protect its own".