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A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Quiet Man (Region B) -- in Blu-ray

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Robert Harris, Dec 2, 2015.

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    He would. He'd like to see registration issues completed.

    That said, most people won't notice them.
     
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    I have made hundreds of DVDs as a videographer. I have never seen various encodings change the black level one bit. It doesn't change white or black levels, unless you are changing that along with the re-encode. A straight re-encode just changes the compression, not the levels.
     
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    I believe what nay have occurred, is that the overall compression strategy, in helping to attain a more film like and highly resolved and cohesive image, may have made the black levels appear more apparently thicker than the earlier release.

    Allowing the feature another 17 GB of breathing room, according to DVD Beaver, doesn't hurt. Going from 23 to 40 is huge.
     
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    Have for the past few years purchased region B blu-rays like Runaway Train and some of the Ealing films like The Lavender Hill Mob or the Titfield Thunderbolt because they are not available in the states as of now and my all region Sony plays them well.
     
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    A new UK pressing. My advise, get The Quiet Man and Shane Eureka releases.


    It's have been awhile since my last post in this forum. A member since 1999 I Think.


    Regards,
     
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    That may be the case. In my experience, using three different mpg2 and AVC encoding engines, and all kinds of different compression (high bitrate, low bitrate, constant bitrate, variable birate, one-pass, two-pass, etc.) with everything else at unity, levels will never change. What changes is image tightness, chroma stability, and if the original image has enough quality, a sense of more depth. If Eureka took the as-is master and made a straight unity encode and everything turned out fine, then, if the same master was used, whoever made Olive's BD may has either tweaked the master or fouled up their encode. As I recall, many interiors in the Olive disc have milky blacks. If these are now "inky", then something happened somewhere because just doing better encode compression is not going to do change that.
     
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    Again, David himself has confirmed that the black levels have not been changed. They are not now inky, they always have been. It is Olive that has caused them to be milky on their release.

    As to whether or not simply encoding can change black levels, I'll defer again to the post from David I linked to earlier where he theorises how this could indeed have happened at Olive's encoding stage.
     
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    Well, that cinches it for me. I'm such a fanatic for visual perfection that I'll be ordering both "The Quiet Man" and "Shane", despite my lack of a Region Free player.


    Yup, I'll deal with ways to afford that coveted device, soon after the holidays.


    I love restoration so much, that I can't wait to see how these leaps of improvement will look on this most enchanting and endearing work by Winton C. Hoch.


    Meanwhile, the "Limited to 2000" edition of "Shane" also boasts the inclusion of all 3 aspect ratios!!! Who can resist?


    God almighty, it's been a grand year for us film fanatics.
     
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    In the top ten of my favourite films............I will be double dipping on this one as the Olive release is a mess IMO.
     
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    It's worth noting that of the several Eureka titles I have, all of them can be played back on a Region A player using the "Stop, Top Menu" trick.
     
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    The Eureka team deserve a round of applause for taking on this release and coming up with the goods. I watched this and "Shane" yesterday on my projector and the images were superb. Big congrats!
     
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    Alright that's it. I'm not waiting anymore - ordering Shane right now ! :D


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    Is that not only true for a certain few blu-ray players?
     
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    I tried that trick last night on three Sony Blu-ray players: didn't work on any of them!
     
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    Details are in the thread I linked to, but I can only personally confirm it working on Panasonic players.
     
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    Doesn't work on my Sony either. I have to use my Oppo with an all region mod for region B discs.
     
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    Correct, I think it is just Panasonic players, and not all of them.
     
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    No, it's reported that Pioneer and LG players can also do this along with most Panasonics. Again, refer to the linked thread.


    Anyway didn't mean to sidetrack the thread. Obviously the only guarantee that a Region B disc can play on a Region A player is if it's region free modified. I already have a region free modded US model Panasonic, but I always use this trick successfully with Eureka discs on my player because I typically leave it in Region A mode out of laziness.
     

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