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A Few Words About A few words about...™ It's a Wonderful Life -- in Blu-ray

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Robert Harris, Nov 10, 2009.

  1. Brian Kidd

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    I disagree, only because more and more new films are being shot and finished in 4K in order to keep up with the advance of display technology, both in the theater and in the home. When it comes to older films, however, there are so few 4K releases of older films that studios need to take into account which films actually benefit from an UHD release, rather than releasing them willy nilly and charging the public more for content that is only marginally better than HD releases that can often be had for a fraction of the cost of the 4K release, whether it be digital or disc-based.

    I know that the studios would be more than happy to see physical media die sooner, rather than later, because they make more profit off of a purely-digital release, but it's still frustrating to me as a strident defender of the value of physical media for reasons of both quality and longevity to see a really nice format not exploited to its full capabilities. I'm tilting at windmills, I know.
     
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    I don't have the HD version of the restoration to make such a comparison, unless you're talking about the color version. However, it's a distinct improvement over the two previously released Blu-rays that I have in my collection. By the way which equipment are you viewing this on? My equipment is an LG OLED via 4KATV.
     
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    I also have an LG 4K OLED. I watched it via the Vudu app on a Roku. To compare it, I hooked up an older, non-4K Roku and looked at selected scenes via the HD stream. There was very little difference when viewing the native 4K stream and the HD stream. Some, certainly, but not enough that I felt the 4K version was a substantial step-up.

    I'm in no way saying that the restored, 4K version is not really nice-looking and a big improvement on the Blu-ray. It is. All I'm saying is that if you have a choice between purchasing the restored HD version and the restored 4K version, you aren't really losing anything if the HD version is cheaper, which it usually is. If they were to release a 4K disc of the film, I wouldn't hesitate buying it as the current restoration is the best the film has looked on home video. I'd think twice, though, if a separate Blu-ray was available at a lower price point.
     
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    "I'm Sancho! Yes, I'm Sancho!
    I'll follow my master till the end
    I'll tell all the world proudly
    I'm his squire! I'm his friend!"
    - Mitch Leigh​

    P.S. Brian, mind if I join your posse?:)
     
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    Obviously, I wouldn't hesitate buying a 4K disc, either.
    But the donkey I'm riding on says that even an isolated Blu Ray of the new restoration would more than suffice.
     
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    One thing I did notice is that the 4K version on Vudu is HDR while the iTunes has it in Dolby Vision.
     
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    To be fair, the difference between the two types of HDR are fairly minimal to my eyes, especially on a film like this one.
     
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    To be fair there are other people that will disagree with you about those differences.
     
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    Everyone should watch the 13 minute restoration documentary that is an extra on the iTunes purchase. It’s loaded with interesting information about how they scanned the original negative and used HDR to get the best results. By the way, the documentary itself is in 4K, but without HDR.
     
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    George: "Wadda ya mean those other films were never restored!!?"
    Clarence: "They couldn't get restored, George, because you weren't there on disc for those other needed monies to come in."
    George: "But they made a restoration documentary about our film for audiences to see and understand."
    Clarence: "But, George, the majority of people who are streaming only care about the movie, itself; they don't care about the extras or all that goes into a restoration, like you and me. Don't you see, George? Because you were never BD'd, Paramount's Unit of Potter Streaming* was able to take over your father's home theater library, while, consequently, driving out those other salt of the earth's who also helped to build this market."
    George: "That's a lie, that's a lie!!"
    Clarence: "Strange, isn't it? Each man's format touches so many other lives. When that format isn't around it leaves an awful hole, doesn't it? Don't you see what a mistake it would be to just throw it away?"
    George: (sobbing) "I wanna live again."

    *aka PUPS
     
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    I agree as I watched three of those new featurettes in the bonus material on iTunes.
     
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    I:lol::lol::lol:
     
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    Paul McCartney is writing It's a Wonderful Life: The Musical

    Whether you like the idea or not, it can only increase interest in the original film, heightening the chances of a BD or even UHD BD of the restoration. On the subject of remakes in general, I've a solution for anyone who says "Why can't they leave it alone?", "They're murdering a classic" or that old fave, "They're crapping all over my childhood memories": ignore it and don't buy any tickets to see it. Works fine for me. ;)
     
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    Quite a few of the Christmas classics have already been adapted into musicals, so why not It's a Wonderful Life. You never know from where something genius might spring.
     
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    Actually it also airs on USA Network, which is NBC's sister cable network (both part of the NBCUniversal group). USA shows it about 2 or 3 times a year.
     
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    Definitely some of the songs will have to be performed by (ah-hem) Wings.:rolleyes:

    "Mary, I'm Amazed"
    "Uncle Billy"
    "Bank on the Run"
    "Old Potter's Field Forever"
    "You've Got To Hide Your Cash Away"
    "I'll Die Instead"
    "When I'm AS2"
    "Georgie, You're a Rich Man"
     
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    Brilliant! :lol::lol::lol:

    Got any more?
     
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    "Live and Let Cry"

    Sorry.
     
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