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A few words about...™ HDR and the new Panasonic 9000 -- in 4k UHD Blu-ray

Discussion in 'Playback Devices' started by Robert Harris, Apr 27, 2019.

  1. zoetmb

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    Value Electronics is a very high quality non-chain independent dealer who has very high service levels and does a lot for the industry, like sponsoring shootouts and seminars. People should be quite happy to order from them and not from Amazon or chains.
     
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    If one visits Value, and has a question, you won’t be speaking with a salesperson. You’ll be with an engineer, who interrelates with the manufacturers.,
     
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    Ugh, I'm going to need a 9000 aren't I?
     
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    Concerning Bryan's post # 19 - is this some sort of limited edition player that is going out of production ?
     
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    So I'm starting my research and a poster on another forum asks "Just got a panasonic ub9000 bluray player, should I set it sdr2020 or using the hdr2020 have better picture quality?"

    The responses he is getting suggests he should use sdr2020. That makes no sense.

    If I were to get one it would be paired with a JVC 790R / (aka 540) and my expectation would be to set it to hdr2020 and whatever that 350 nits choice is instead of 500. Am I tracking on that? Would I see any issues using the standard 500 nits solution on an 820 and save $500?

    For the record I'm using Javs's tone mapping on an Oppo now. It simulates HDR nicely but I have a bit of black crush cause I can't calibrate it cleanly on my own. And it's a nightmare for anyone else to run but me and it constantly pops for a 10 second lockup on resync. I'd pay to get a better solution but I don't know if I would pay $1000 for it. That's half of a new projector.
     
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    I was told to set for low/standard illumination. Dolby Vision off.
     
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    I would just stay away from Samsung players in general. Samsung's a only ever been good at being one of the first to market for players, never about actual quality IMHO... especially if it's something on bleeding edge that definitely needs responsive, reliable customer service.

    If you need an affordable, low end UHD player, I'd much sooner try Sony or maybe LG. The Sony X700 is pretty good at the under-$200 level... although not sure it's readily available at that price right now.

    _Man_
     
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    The Philips 7502 is also a very affordable UHD player that does HDR and Dolby Vision.
     
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    A million thanks for this headsup.

    For the benefit of Region B owners this simple hack also works in the opposite direction. So far it enables ever Criterion Region A I've put in it and a couple of Lionsgates and others. I have spent the last year looking vainly for a legally availbale region hack for the Pannys online. Et Voila!!
     
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    Sony-UBP-UX80 ANY GOOD?
     
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    I paired the 820 with the Epson 4010 projector and it’s incredible. It looked great even before I found the HDR Optimizer. But once I implemented it...wow. Huge difference. I hear the 5050 is even way better, so I hope to upgrade when it dropsin price.
     
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    I’d love an Epson 5050 and a Panny 820 combo. I don’t think I’ll have the budget to do that for a few years, but that may be the new long term goal.
     
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    I believe this was added to the UB820 in latest firmware update in March.

    In depth review of the UB820's HDR tone mapping capabilities and more by Kris Deering: https://www.soundandvision.com/content/panasonic-dp-ub820-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-review
     
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    Best Buy has a deal on the LG UBK90

    $199 plus three 4K films. Was tempted but kept thinking of this thread.

    Anyone have thoughts on the UBK 90? I’m torn.
     
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    I'm afraid so:)
     
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    Get the 820 if you can, it is a beautiful thing Tino. The HDR optimizer and options for video/audio are other worldly. I get lost sometimes fiddling with video settings. And the picture quality is better than anything on the market according to reviews--I think the video quality is better than my Oppo.

    Worth it.
     
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    The Panasonic 820 and 9000 models have subtitle shift, but no 21:9 scaling for anamorphic lens support. The latter remains an OPPO exclusive feature.
     
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    "SDR2020" is a misnomer. It’s not really SDR. It’s the output mode you select in the UHD Blu-ray player if you want the player to decode the HDR video itself, rather than bitstream the raw data to the TV/display to decode and tone map. The display will receive a signal it believes is SDR, so that it won’t kick in its own HDR tone mapping. The “SDR” actually has Rec. 2020 colors and more dynamic range than regular SDR.
     
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