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UHD Review A few words about...™ Godzilla - King of the Monsters -- in 4k UHD Blu-ray

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Robert Harris, Aug 24, 2019.

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    Robert Harris

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    I had heard negative comments about the newest Godzilla incarnation, but came away pleasantly surprised, to find a reasonably cohesive, entertaining film, with nice effects, and terrific audio.

    It's a bit convoluted, but pay attention, and it all comes together.

    But viewing the film, I came away wondering why it was such an international production, especially in these days of nationalism.

    Why the Japanese, and Chinese involvement? Why the need for English actors?

    There have been rumors for decades that the Godzilla creature is somehow predicated upon Japanese films, but this couldn't be further from the truth.

    We can trace these creatures back to the work of Windsor McCay, and his creation Gertie the Dinosaur, in 1914. In 1933, an other quintessential American film, King Kong set new standards for stop-motion animation.

    But this is where things may get interesting, and many of us have been aware of the conspiracy theories for years. Sometime, decades ago, the camera negative of King Kong suspiciously went missing from the RKO vaults. There were whispers that it may have been stolen by a cranky employee, and sold to a collector. But recent reports, mention that it may have been seen in Japan.

    Which begs the question, What precisely are the Japanese holding over the heads of the Americans? The answer may exist in the fact that there was a virtually unknown American production, released in April of 1956, entitled Godzilla, King of the Monsters, which starred Raymond Burr, and an all-American cast. That American production, used the latest in stop-motion effects.

    Rumor is, that Toho, took this film, re-filmed numerous sequences, adding cheap effects (some say, a man in a rubber suit) and a myriad of Japanese actors, and took credit for its creation, much as they did for Key of Keys.

    They then followed this up, with a plethora of other monster films, all with Japanese casts, many actually filmed in Canada. This went on for years.

    But who holds the original negative to King Kong, and how does it affect the false information that these creatures were Japanese creations?

    Proper research will bring the truth.

    Obviously linking to missing negative, and the Japanese connection, Warner Bros., (remember, they own King Kong), has given work to two fine foreign actors whose work I admire - Ken Watanabe and Ziyi Zhang - but these roles could have been played by Americans, except that they perpetuate the foreign connection.

    Then there's the ingenue, the young teen who saves the day - played by Millie Brown, some TV actress.

    One could easily have cast Julia Butters, who with a bit of makeup, could easily play a young teen. She could probably play Churchill if she desired.

    Ah, and more British actors taking the food from Americans - Sally Hawkins and Charles Dance. I admire their work greatly, especially Mr. Dance, but was Ian McShane, one of the great American actors not available? He was wonderful in John Wick 3, and what would Deadwood have been without him?

    But I'm getting off topic, and the reason for this thread to is to make note of the fact that the newest Godzilla incarnation is a very decent film, and worthy of a spin.

    It's a wonderful addition to one's growing 4k library.

    Now, if someone can find that original King Kong negative, and get it back to it's rightful owner...


    Image – 5

    Audio – 5 (Dolby Atmos)

    Pass / Fail – Pass

    Recommended

    RAH

     
  2. Robert Crawford

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    I liked the film more than others after seeing it twice in the movie theater. I'll be picking up the 4K/UHD disc during the Black Friday sales.
     
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    It’s a lovely 4k presentation. I’ve confirmed, that no creatures were actually harmed during production.
     
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    Sometimes Robert Harris has his tongue so firmly lodged in his cheek it's a wonder we can understand him at all.
     
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    I can see it on the Internet, a few years from now: “I heard someone say that Robert Harris said the negative for King Kong isn’t lost, it’s in Japan.”
     
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    Oh trust me. There are some here that’s will read his post and believe every word. ;)
     
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    More truth has been said in jest.

    I DO believe the negative survives. The question is where, and/or, with whom. I traced records years ago, which showed the production of protection positives, foreign shipments, and foreign distribution. One title I recall as Kingo Kongo.

    It’s out there, somewhere.
     
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    As in "Stranger Things"?
     
  9. Robert Crawford

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    RAH being facetious.
     
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    As was I.
     
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    The only thing preventing this thread from being complete is a certain someone dropping by to unleash a boatload of horrible puns.
     
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    If one is seeking stranger things, it seems that the original negative for Becket is with a licensee in Spain, and last I heard was not being retuned because of a dispute. Apparently shipped in error. After all one negative is the same as any other.

    One could create an interesting list of original elements that have gone missing.
     
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    Sometimes I have to read Mr. Harris's posts several times to get his extremely deep sarcasm and desert dry sense of humor. LOL!
     
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    Another movie worth staying through the end credits for...

    I remember the good old days when they told you the whole story before "the end" appeared.
     
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    I have consulted with a notable German spy and all I can saw is ...
    upload_2019-8-24_15-38-13. ;) ..
     
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    My friend saw this in the theater and begged me to do the same, he said it is the "must see" movie of the summer (he is a big Godzilla fan). He loved it. I feel bad I ignored his advice, but plan on watching this at home.
     
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    And would that negative contain the spider-pit sequence?
     
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    Was the original film negative to The Best Years of Our Lives lost during shipment?
     
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    It would not, as that was a deletion early on.
     
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    That’s what I was told, but it really doesn’t matter, as all the Goldwyn b/w nitrates were junked.
     
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